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Grimmlokk
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God fucking damn it.
Also, I've mentioned before how I compartmentalize with fighters who I hate as people(Diazes) and still love them as fighters. Jon Jones very much comes down in this camp so I'm actually pretty bummed that maybe the best fighter in the world is such a shitbird that we're going to miss part(s) of his prime as a fighter. I get the glee over seeing him get suspended and stripped etc, but I can't go all in on it like I want because seriously, he's fucking amazing.
Also, I've mentioned before how I compartmentalize with fighters who I hate as people(Diazes) and still love them as fighters. Jon Jones very much comes down in this camp so I'm actually pretty bummed that maybe the best fighter in the world is such a shitbird that we're going to miss part(s) of his prime as a fighter. I get the glee over seeing him get suspended and stripped etc, but I can't go all in on it like I want because seriously, he's fucking amazing.
Gilgamel
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I normally think Magary is a pretentious shit but this is pretty okay.
Is It Safer for Kids to Do MMA Fighting Than to Play Football?
Is It Safer for Kids to Do MMA Fighting Than to Play Football?
Tuco
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My google results are different and focus on the 2009 charges he pled too. Google changes search results based on what it understands about the user.
For me it understands that I don't place a lot of trust in claims that were dropped that he was never charged with. For you it understands you're an asshole who thinks things like, "It's a farce to give the person scheduled to fight JJ a different fighter who is not only a favorite vs Rumble but is also already scheduled to fight at the same time so he's ready for it.".
Tuco
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People arguing that Rumble is an angel: Nobody
People arguing that Rumble isn't an angel: Gavinrad.
Ugh. Terrible journalism. He completely conflates MMA with BJJ, and then the upshot of his article is that, based only on speculation, chokes must cause brain damage. There have been extensive, decades-long studies in Japan on judo practitioners of every age and they have determined that there is no lasting damage from brief interruptions of blood flow to the brain.
l2research, please.
Araxen
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Oh yeah it's by far safer but when you compare it to the only the very top of the UFC make what the average NFL players makes is when the shit becomes com-fluxed.
Dana criticized AKA (Khabib's camp) a week or so ago for their injury causing training methods.
Dana White Blasts Cain Velasquez Gym, AKA, for His Injury Woes | Bleacher Report
calhoonjugganaut
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I figured they'd comment on that. Dana was talking about Cain being hurt all the time because they have stoneage training and what not. Gustafsson is hurt now too...I know he's not AKA too but just throwing that in there.
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I have been choked out twice (intentionally), and being choked to submission is a fairly common occurrence in BJJ.
I'm a developer for a legacy system professionally, I train with a Surgeon in his last couple years of residency, several other Developers, and people in IT roles, two or three Attorneys at law. It doesn't seem to have effected our brains. BJJ started off as an adult martial art, and the academy targets adults, not children (there's one kids class, it's mostly the kids of parents that train).
There probably are a lot of shitty parents forcing their kids to extremes, for example shouldn't be making a 7 year old weight cut, that's a really dumb idea.
A properly applied choke held for less than 15 seconds, is probably not dangerous in the long term, a choke (or more technically a strangulation) held longer than that becomes substantially more dangerous for every second after. About 6-10 seconds in the person will lose consciousness, at about the 30 second mark the body will stop trying to breath for itself and CPR would have to be administered.
A 6 second choke isn't going to have the lasting impact of a concussion.
I've heard stories of people having heart attacks on the mat, read stories of people having strokes as the result of damage to their carotids, there's that poor kid in Brazil that was paralyzed in a match he had with an adult. There's always the potential for stuff to go wrong, but most of that stuff is preventable, and the stuff that isn't is usually the result of freak events.
That guy on ESPN Sports Science has been choked out by like 6 people now, ask him how he feels.
I'm a developer for a legacy system professionally, I train with a Surgeon in his last couple years of residency, several other Developers, and people in IT roles, two or three Attorneys at law. It doesn't seem to have effected our brains. BJJ started off as an adult martial art, and the academy targets adults, not children (there's one kids class, it's mostly the kids of parents that train).
There probably are a lot of shitty parents forcing their kids to extremes, for example shouldn't be making a 7 year old weight cut, that's a really dumb idea.
A properly applied choke held for less than 15 seconds, is probably not dangerous in the long term, a choke (or more technically a strangulation) held longer than that becomes substantially more dangerous for every second after. About 6-10 seconds in the person will lose consciousness, at about the 30 second mark the body will stop trying to breath for itself and CPR would have to be administered.
A 6 second choke isn't going to have the lasting impact of a concussion.
I've heard stories of people having heart attacks on the mat, read stories of people having strokes as the result of damage to their carotids, there's that poor kid in Brazil that was paralyzed in a match he had with an adult. There's always the potential for stuff to go wrong, but most of that stuff is preventable, and the stuff that isn't is usually the result of freak events.
That guy on ESPN Sports Science has been choked out by like 6 people now, ask him how he feels.
Not sure where else to post this.
Abreu out, Ryron Gracie in vs. Barnett at Metamoris 6 - Mixed Martial Arts News
Abreu out, Ryron Gracie in vs. Barnett at Metamoris 6 - Mixed Martial Arts News
Tuco
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Necrath Evilcraft
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I don't see it happening but if ever a fighter union was going to form this may finally be the catalyst for it. Some people are pretty vocal already about these numbers being way under what they are getting.