The fact that this looks like it's probably going to make it out is actually shocking to me.
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Monsters and Memories (Project_N) - Old School Indie MMO
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Ritley
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Pharone
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You know the funny thing is that these guys are doing exactly what I've preached for years that DBG should do with EverQuest; make new old content.
In the case of M&M, they are making new content for the first time, but it's in the vain of old content styles which is freaking awesome. Why DBG can't seem to figure out that people want this is beyond me. They keep regurgitating one TLP server after another, and if they just simply took the time to make a brand new expansion that had this old style content for a new TLP experience, they would sell like hot cakes. But... they are too busy milking that 20+ year old cow for all its worth.
Thank God someone is finally making this kind of game in this day and age.
In the case of M&M, they are making new content for the first time, but it's in the vain of old content styles which is freaking awesome. Why DBG can't seem to figure out that people want this is beyond me. They keep regurgitating one TLP server after another, and if they just simply took the time to make a brand new expansion that had this old style content for a new TLP experience, they would sell like hot cakes. But... they are too busy milking that 20+ year old cow for all its worth.
Thank God someone is finally making this kind of game in this day and age.
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Laura
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At first I thought the team were using EverQuest client to code their game like some sort of emulator. But then when I watched Shawn's videos of him editing the zone I realized they've managed to recreate EverQuest from scratch. I can't wait to play this game.
I'm now enjoying playing Embers Adrift which has a classic vibe to it but I'm sure Monsters and Memories are going to be my main game if it's released. Let's hope they manage to focus on making content and not get carried away with features.
I liked how Embers Adrift is bare-bones but at least they let you play it and support them while doing it. VR should really learn from this.
I'm now enjoying playing Embers Adrift which has a classic vibe to it but I'm sure Monsters and Memories are going to be my main game if it's released. Let's hope they manage to focus on making content and not get carried away with features.
I liked how Embers Adrift is bare-bones but at least they let you play it and support them while doing it. VR should really learn from this.
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Ali and Nick both hail from emulation communities. They're some of the most passionate people for older MMOs I've ever met, and I'm glad they're part of the team. I feel like this project is their wet dream and they're going all out on it.
It's amazing to see progress and not just hear about it. The entire M&M team understands that.
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Groove
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Update 22: Staying Busy This Summer — Monsters & Memories
Hello everyone! No epic update video for you this month, but we’re working on something cool that’ll likely scratch that itch before the month is out. Video aside, this month is still loaded with plenty of updates. Enjoy! Character Art & Concepts Elemental/Elemental Pet modeled
monstersandmemories.com
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Ambiturner
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Do you realize the number of devs EQ had in it's prime vs now?
Saying they should just make content like in the PoP days like that's some kind of revelation is 800 IQ shit
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For anyone with an interest in game design and theory, the YouTube channel Mandrake Farms posts clips and edited versions from the M&M dev streams. Most are in the 1 minute range but I really enjoyed listening to them talk class design and what they’re aiming to do.
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I'm more impressed at how they were able to find artists animators and worldbuilders to sign up. That was always the biggest roadblock to indie games from what I could see
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Update 22: Staying Busy This Summer — Monsters & Memories
Hello everyone! No epic update video for you this month, but we’re working on something cool that’ll likely scratch that itch before the month is out. Video aside, this month is still loaded with plenty of updates. Enjoy! Character Art & Concepts Elemental/Elemental Pet modeled
monstersandmemories.com
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I'm thankful these guys have decided to go against norms and be very open and interactive with their followers because it is really interesting to watch them stream near daily. The worst part is reading all the terrible opinions and suggestions from people in the chat. I would never have the patience. Some of the most vocal 'followers' have never played EQ and have no idea why the team makes the choices they do. Every little choice the team makes is questioned in real time.
For example, I think yesterday Shawn created an Elementalist and had to kill some things before he had enough money to buy a malachite to summon a pet. Some people thought this gameplay loop was too complicated for someone at level 1 without a help tool or tip dialogue lol.
For example, I think yesterday Shawn created an Elementalist and had to kill some things before he had enough money to buy a malachite to summon a pet. Some people thought this gameplay loop was too complicated for someone at level 1 without a help tool or tip dialogue lol.
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Kaines
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TJT
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If you don't have to manually do each individual crafting combine that just fails if you fat finger the wrong amount it's just not the same.
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Actually I do think they are testing separate inventory slots for things like reagents.
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TJT
Mr. Poopybutthole
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I'm totally down for potions useful during combat to be a thing. Teleport pots and other utility pots that only served limited usefulness in EQ was something they really didn't leverage as much as they could.
Dedicated food and drink slots are a solid improvement. Big reagent bags should be a no brainer.
Dedicated food and drink slots are a solid improvement. Big reagent bags should be a no brainer.
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TJT
Mr. Poopybutthole
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Watched that full class video finally.
Things I liked:
Things I liked:
- Necromancer -> more built around the idea of a utility/support class blood mage. Balancing drains with using your own health to heal/give mana to allies. But still has a variety of pet options (like WoW warlocks).
- I would like if they borrowed the Flesh Golem/Abomination idea from Vanguard. Looking for various body parts and stuff to "build" it and have it as a pet. But I get that it might not be viable or worth building. Still was always cool.
- Enchanter -> Want to keep Charm viable but understand that it drastically limits design space. Possible solution is to allow an Enchanter only one "focus" slot and give them a powerful line of "enchant ally" spells. Such that you can only enchant ally or charm a mob. Never both. Forcing more interesting decisions.
- Spellblade -> A class built around adding procs to your weapons and armor. Seems cool.
- Inquisitor -> Anti magic tank focused on hard mitigation of magical damage and silencing enemy casters. Cool AF imo.
- Bard -> Don't want to just weave songs via macro, have some other things like encores, beat drops or some other shit. Will retain their superspeed.
- Rogue -> Will have an array of poisons that offer weaker slows and other effects so you can get by without a shaman (master of slows and haste). Will have many disables.
- Archers -> fags
- Rangers -> fags
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