MTG thread

Sithro · Oct 28, 2014

I don't think the value would really go down much if they re-printed reserve list cards. Being the originals alone would probably make them valuable. They could give them new art like Vintage Masters does, making the originals stil unique.

I'd like to fuck about in Legacy, but I have no interest in dropping a grand on a single deck, usually consisting of $200 land cards. lol

I don't even want to talk about Vintage, Jesus Christ.

Whidon · Oct 28, 2014

Sithro_sl said:
I don't think the value would really go down much if they re-printed reserve list cards. Being the originals alone would probably make them valuable.

I'd like to fuck about in Legacy, but I have no interest in dropping a grand on a single deck, usually consisting of $200 land cards. lol

I don't even want to talk about Vintage, Jesus Christ.

I've often thought about coming back to magic. But the price of playing t1 ( or w/e it's called now) just turns me off. Those decks I was using 10 years ago were worth 1-2k i imagine would cost far more now. I could come back and just do t2 but it would be weird having to adjust to the 10 years of cards and mechanics without having the familiarity of those old cards.

Personally if they reprinted those old t1 staples i would def start playing again, so would many of my old mtg playing friends.

Heylel · Oct 28, 2014

Every format is wildly different from what you remember a decade or more ago. The closest thing to deck continuity for any format is probably either Burn or Merfolk being viable in legacy, but they also use very different cards than they did back then.

Shit, even just Return to Ravnica flipped Legacy on its head with Deathrite Shaman and Abrupt Decay, nevermind things like Stoneforge Mystic, Emrakul, Griselbrand, Jace, the Mind Sculptor, enemy fetchlands, or Treasure Cruise. It would be unrecognizable no matter what they reprinted. The good news is that it's easy to catch back up.

Mist · Oct 28, 2014

I've played this game for 20 years and I don't get the fascination with eternal formats. Unless you have a serious fetish for Brainstorm/Daze/FoW then why fucking bother?

Zaide · Oct 28, 2014

Modern has been a lot of fun. There are so many more possibilities and cool synergistic card relationships to tinker with.

Also in my experience every standard tournament was full of huge fags who were jerks to my friends and I when we were newer players. Even once we were experienced they were all about scoffing at your deck.

On the other hand Modern has been full of the chillest players I've met. They're always willing to give advice and tips after matches. That's just my personal experience though and ofc "the sum of anecdotes is not data" etc.

Vaclav · Oct 28, 2014

Standard does tend to attract the more competitive players - which will in turn attract more jerks, yea.

Mist · Oct 28, 2014

Modern could be an interesting format if they made the banlist like 3x as large.

Lasch · Oct 28, 2014

How has Boetcher not been banned yet?
modern has it's moments. I am not thrilled with the direction they have taken it, but at least there are a lot of semi viable decks and strategies.

Heylel · Oct 28, 2014

Mist_sl said:
Modern could be an interesting format if they made the banlist like 3x as large.

No. Just... no. If anything, cards need to come off (once this Treasure Cruise nonsense is dealt with).

To each their own, I suppose. I personally don't like playing limited at all. Every format feels very different. Vintage, legacy and modern all play dramatically differently from one another, and certainly from standard. They're just different flavors of magic.

Heylel · Oct 28, 2014

Vaclav_sl said:
Standard does tend to attract the more competitive players - which will in turn attract more jerks, yea.

Standard has a bunch of hypercompetitive jerks, but legacy gets most of the snobs. I love that format, but jesus christ does it attract a certain personality.

Sithro · Oct 28, 2014

Zaide_sl said:
Modern has been a lot of fun. There are so many more possibilities and cool synergistic card relationships to tinker with.

Also in my experience every standard tournament was full of huge fags who were jerks to my friends and I when we were newer players. Even once we were experienced they were all about scoffing at your deck.

On the other hand Modern has been full of the chillest players I've met. They're always willing to give advice and tips after matches. That's just my personal experience though and ofc "the sum of anecdotes is not data" etc.

Yup, I had like 3 people explaining stuff to me. Only like one or two people at the whole FNM had a bad attitude (like 30+ people were there), everyone else was friendly as fuck. Some guy even let me hold his Black Lotus. Maybe it's just me, but if I had a $2000 card I wouldn't have it anywhere near FNM, much less let some guy you don't really know hold it and take a picture of it. But so far everyone is cool, no cards have been stolen, etc.

I wish they'd make the other formats as viable as Standard. There's been so many crazy ass cards over the years that it would be far more interesting.

Mist · Oct 28, 2014

Heylel_sl said:
No. Just... no. If anything, cards need to come off (once this Treasure Cruise nonsense is dealt with).

To each their own, I suppose. I personally don't like playing limited at all. Every format feels very different. Vintage, legacy and modern all play dramatically differently from one another, and certainly from standard. They're just different flavors of magic.

Even without the Ascendancy/Treasure Cruise bullshit, I don't understand how 6+ different turn 4 combo decks is a fun format.

Heylel · Oct 28, 2014

Mist_sl said:
Even without the Ascendancy/Treasure Cruise bullshit, I don't understand how 6+ different turn 4 combo decks is a fun format.

There is a slightly higher than necessary abundance of combo in modern, but most of them don't play like combo decks. They have incidental draws that allow them to go over the top and break a board stall. It's also a dramatically different game playing vs. Kiki-Pod, MeliraPod or Splinter Twin even though they're doing similar things.

Wuyley_sl · Oct 28, 2014

They just need to do a YOLO SWAG and print FoW in Modern Masters 2 so it can keep the control decks in check. Modern is already a top deck type of format and getting 2 for 1ed is a lot more punishing then it is in Legacy.

Mist · Oct 28, 2014

Modern cards have to also be Standard legal when they're printed, at least under the current format definition.

They need to ban cards until aggro is viable. Robots doesn't count, that's a combo deck that attacks.

Zaide · Oct 28, 2014

I've been playing an aggro deck and doing well. I've beaten pod multiple times. There are a lot of ways to stop those decks that you can sideboard in. Half the time pod loses because they fetch/shock a third of their life for me.

I just made a burn deck which I'm excited to use as well. RDW was my original mtg deck.

Mist · Oct 28, 2014

I accidentally a whole aggro deck.

Arbitrary · Oct 28, 2014

Double Ride Down, double Mardu Heart-Piercer, Mantis Rider, burn, removal, tricks. Oooooookaaaaaaay.

Mist · Oct 28, 2014

Arbitrary_sl said:
Double Ride Down, double Mardu Heart-Piercer, Mantis Rider, burn, removal, tricks. Oooooookaaaaaaay.

I amreallygood at this game if you haven't noticed.

I did punt the draft before that by playing a tapland as my 10th land instead of an untapped land, in a turn where I really needed to flip over 2 5-mana morphs midcombat. Losing to counting wrong is pretty much the worst.

Arbitrary · Oct 29, 2014

Everyone you rolled had to be pretty salty. There's just no way to play around things like the second Ride Down or second Heart-Piercer. Mantis Rider on curve is just murderous if it ever happens.

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