NBA 2015 Off-Season Thread

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Vlad survive the night??

The Kings will receive Arturas Gudaitis and Nikola Mitrovic in the Nik Stauskas trade.
And you thought Vlade Divac was done flopping when he retired from playing. These two guys were picked 47th and 60th in the draft for a guy who went eighth in the draft just last year. Sam Hinkie took Vlade to the cleaners on this one. Jul 2 - 12:52 AM
Source: Pablo Torre on Twitter
 
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Holy fuck the Kings are absolutely fucking retarded. A Rondo-Monta-Gay-Cousins team would be the Harlem Globetrotters, just they wouldn't actually be acting.

That trade is just fucking terrible, wonder if Hinkie saved one of Divac's kids or some shit and this is payback. Karl is the most sane out of the group apparently.
 
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It's such a great trade for the sixers. Hinkie wanted him last year but he was off the board so we took Saric(sounding like a potential stud.) we got their 1st in 2018 and the right to swap 1st the next 2 years. He didn't have an amazing rookie year but the beauty of coming to philly is he will get a ton of minutes and have no pressure to win. He can just learn the game and develop. I love his size and we are a PG away from having a whole starting 5 over 6'6.

If he didn't get a commitment from some of those players he's chasing, kings fans are going to shoot that dude.

Can't wait till next draft!? 2016, Round 1: Sixers, Heat (top 10 protected), Lakers (top 3 protected) Thunder (top 15 protected), Rights to swap own pick with Kings if Kings finish in top 10 of lottery
2016, Round 2: Nuggets


Random talk on Embiid. There are some rumors dropping that the reason his foot isn't healing fast enough is because he's still growing and it slows the healing process down. He 7'2 in sandals at this point. Hopefully know more really soon.
 
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Gavinmad_sl said:
Hey guys I hear this is the place to talk about sportsball. I don't really follow the NBA at all, but I'm pretty sure the Bulls are going to repeat this year.
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Haha, I can't believe the Sixers got a potential shooter & a first for essentially absorbing money they weren't going to spend anyway. I'd be pissed if I was a Kings fan.
 
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Haha, I can't believe the Sixers got a potential shooter & a first for essentially absorbing money they weren't going to spend anyway. I'd be pissed if I was a Kings fan.
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made my night. I like Okafor but I was set on Russell and we lost him and didn't do anything to grab an outside player so the draft just felt underwhelming overall. This trade has really hit the spot for me.. Brett Brown and Hinkie wanted him bad last year but Kings swooped him and got him.

Heard a rumor yesterday MCW on block. Be funny if he ended up back in Philly.
 
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It's hilarious how much sports radio here flip flops between hating and felating Hinkie.
 
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All of these Lakers stories are awesome. They didn't just blow it. They blew it to a level of epicness that we might never see again in our lifetimes.
 
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yea, 97.5 the worst of them all. Some of the shit those guys were saying. They wanted to trade Noel and our 3 to Lakers for their 2nd pick. WTF? I can't even listen to them anymore. I trust Hinkie and he makes the best pick talent/upside wise with the lotteries, I can't argue with that.
 
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Angelwatch_sl said:
All of these Lakers stories are awesome. They didn't just blow it. They blew it to a level of epicness that we might never see again in our lifetimes.
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it's glorious! So many bigs next year in draft and we have their top 3 protected pick! They should swap us now for Russell! I loved Russell and really wanted him but they should have went Okafor. He is more NBA ready and filled a bigger void on that team.
 
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Convo_sl said:
it's glorious! So many bigs next year in draft and we have their top 3 protected pick! They should swap us now for Russell! I loved Russell and really wanted him but they should have went Okafor. He is more NBA ready and filled a bigger void on that team.
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Naw, man. This is poor decision making and the exact opposite of what a guy like Hinkie would do. Russell was the better prospect and that LA team literally has one player that you would consider a part of the 'core' four years from now. That one player also is a horrible fit next to a low post playing, defensively limited center (I don't think this matters though).

The Lakers look to be a toxic FA destination until Kobe is gone and they have no talent. Randle and Clarkson and no one should be considering Clarkson any kind of building block. A team that void of talent just needs to acquire the best young players they can and continue to tank. I'd much rather build around Russell than Okafor as one of them fits the mold of the modern NBA and the other requires a very specific set of players around him.
 
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Monroe to the Bucks for max deal. Kidd has: Carter-Williams, Middleton, Greek Freak, Jabari Parker, and now Monroe to play with. That's gonna be a good team in the East, if such a thing exists?

I am also starting to think the Lakers passing of Okafor will come back and hurt them after liistening to so many scouts and shit talk about the situation. Jeff Goodman (ESPN) summed it up really well when he essentially said that on principle alone regardless of how good Russell becomes, if Okafor turns into a 20/10 guy with the lack of bigs in the league it would be a better pick. He projects Russell to be a good PG in a Lillard mold, who can make a few All-Star games, but Okafor could be a x10 All Star.
 
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I'm talking right now. Okafor made more sense. Double double every night most likely as a rookie. I agree Russell was the better pick long term. Look what has happen to them... Do you think they had a better shot selling a FA with Oakfor under the net? I honestly do and their needs changed a bit with him on the roster. Just my opinion, but if they wanted to win now, and it appears they do, he was the better pick.
 
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About OKC, their team is basically set and stacked. The only questions are health and how they mesh with Billy. If they are healthy, they will be one of the favorites to come out of the West (obviously GState is THE favorite).
 
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How can anyone look at how Okafor rebounded in college and project him to be a double double guy? I think Al Jefferson is a really great comp for him. Offensively skilled, but very much in an iso/ball stopper sort of way and too slow defensively. You have to be a monster offensively today in the NBA to make up for those deficiencies.

Maybe Okafor is this once in a generation offensive talent, but he still won't ever be able to hedge a pick and roll and he also will need a team of passing shooters that also play defense around him. What happens when a team just fronts him on defense, which is what all NBA teams do now to the few iso post players that exist?

Don't get me wrong. He's a good prospect. I think he's going to be extremely difficult to build around.
 
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Stop is slaythe! I'm all in now that he's ours! I think he's a double double machine this year. I'm actually being serious about that. Let's see how he is in the summer league. I think he has the drive to be great. Which is at least a step in the right direction.

Sixers big men, if healthy, are the most interesting thing to watch this year. Can't wait To see if they all out there together.

Also, and this has to be taking with a grain of salt... Dukes AHC said the reason he didn't look good on defense was because they only played 7 players and he was told not to be overly aggressive. They didn't want their best player in foul trouble. We should know fairly soon of that was bullshit.
 
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OKC is loaded, and in a 7 game series with a healthy Durant, Westbrook, and Ibaka I would favor them. Yes I understand GS just won a title, but I definitely think they had some things go right outside of what they could control that really helped their run.

As far as Okafor, those are really valid questions. He does have a noticeable lack of athleticism and maybe a "motor" at times. His footwork is just insanely good, and he will step in the league next year as one of the two or three best post players down low. I think with his offensive talent, his height will carry him enough to 10+ rebounds, especially the way teams chunk up three's now. Definitely curious to see. Shit maybe Russell turns out to be CP3, but I am starting to wonder if Okafor wouldn't have been a better grab.
 
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I like him on the 6ers. I like Embiid a whole lot more, but I'd rather play Noel/Okafor and deal with the lack of outside shooting than have to deal with the no defense of Randle/Okafor. If one of the two of them can learn to step out to even just 15 feet it's something you can deal with. They definitely need shooters around those two and while Stauskas had an absolutely horrendous rookie year, it shows they are moving in the right direction.

If neither of them develop a jump shot (Okafor's release is ugly as hell and let's not lie, as of right now Noel's offense is limited to lobs, and junk points exclusively) you're in for some trouble.
 
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Convo_sl said:
I'm talking right now. Okafor made more sense. Double double every night most likely as a rookie. I agree Russell was the better pick long term. Look what has happen to them... Do you think they had a better shot selling a FA with Oakfor under the net? I honestly do and their needs changed a bit with him on the roster. Just my opinion, but if they wanted to win now, and it appears they do, he was the better pick.
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I think Okafor was the better pick long term cause as said above, he has a chance to be one of the few great elite bigs, while there are great guards all over the place. Okafor could be a top 5 post player from day 1, and will likely be the best post player in the league at some point. They went with Russell due to the short term - they thought that they needed a young athletic guard to put next to Kobe, and that they could then draw one of the bigs (Aldridge, Love) out there in free agency to play with them. But the bigs aren't biting, so the pick is looking worse than it did a week ago.
 
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