NBA 2015 Off-Season Thread

Antilles

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Haha damn, according to Woj LMA is giving the Lakers a second meeting. And the Heat are in pursuit now.
 

Convo

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he just wants the experience. He's knows it's going to be the last time he gets the treatment. Don't blame him. Still think he ends up a Spur
 

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Does Phoenix make that trade if they don't think they're getting him? Who else would they throw it at? Tobias?
 

Antilles

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I think so. They had a logjam at SF and Warren showed towards the end of the year that he deserves minutes. Add in Marcus' on and off the court troubles/attitude and I'm happy with it no matter what. I'm really only disappointed to see Granger go before he had a chance to play here. He bought a house towards the end of last season and moved out to start putting in work with the training staff to prep for this season, so his opting in was not surprising and I had high hopes he'd have a nice comeback here. I guess his future in Detroit isn't certain but I believe the Suns won't be able to re-sign him if he's waived for a year due to the new CBA.

Now if they move Markieff prematurely, that would be surprising. At this point they have him and Jon Leuer, and there's no way they'd be okay starting the latter.
 

Blitz

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The LMA to Mavs dream I think is dead, other teams have made more sense. At the end of the day Dirk is still one of the better players in the league so DJ is more ideal. If DJ commits, and there is some way Dallas can make sign-and-trade deals for Chandler, Ellis, or Rondo then obviously I believe we become dramatically more attractive and maybe DJ/LMA find a way to work the cap situation and make it work.

At the end of the day, I think LMA is a Spur, Sun, or Rocket. It's either DJ/Matthews or complete bust for us. With how great Carlisle is, I don't doubt we could throw together another veteran jump start team for 45 wins. But mediocrity in the NBA is fucking the worst.


On the Suns trade, I honestly think its just them taking a risk and trying to show LMA how "all in" they are. I doubt they have anything remotely concrete with LMA still taking visits.
 

Antilles

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On the Suns trade, I honestly think its just them taking a risk and trying to show LMA how "all in" they are. I doubt they have anything remotely concrete with LMA still taking visits.
100% agreed. The biggest risk with the move is Markieff being upset about losing his brother but that can be accounted for.
 

Blitz

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Wade resigned for 1yr/$20mil. There is no way they can seriously be in on LMA, just doesn't make sense.

Ps. The "follow up" meeting just screams LMA trying to convince himself the Lakers would be a good choice. Lakers know what they did wrong, surely they are gonna sound ten times better with the correct answers. On top of that, there is no fucking way LA would be a better fit than the others (Spurs, Rockets, Suns) for him. Russell, Kobe, and Randle? 2/3 of those guys are not proven at all, and Kobe is a shell of what he once was. It would be a Melo type decision, and I hope LMA is better than that. Or not because the Spurs wouldn't be some all-universe team if he turns them down.
 

Blitz

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What's the tax for getting near the $81.7 million luxury tax threshold? It better be insane, or I don't see why more teams are not going over.
 

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If Aldridge really doesn't want to play Center, then Toronto seems like the logical choice to me. Why join a team in the stacked Western Conference when you could romp through the East? Lowry, DeRozan, Carroll, Aldridge, Valanciunas would be amazing.

Reports were that the Raptors gave a good pitch, but it wasn't enough to sway him. I certainly wasn't expecting him to sign, but it's hard not to get your hopes up when you're one of the teams he took a meeting with.
 

Blitz

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Spurs, Suns are the clear favorites according to reports with Mavs at a long shot at 3. Matthews preferred destination is the Mavs, but they are awaiting DJ and Kings are starting to open the bank (opened their asshole to Hinkie last night!).

DJ is done with meetings, same thing. He met with them for two hours, Dallas had a 4 1/2 and a dinner, and Parsons has been glued to his hip. So still a lot of optimism. Spurs are looking at a consolation prize in David West if they miss LMA, which would be a solid 2nd place prize.
 

Antilles

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Spurs are looking at a consolation prize in David West if they miss LMA, which would be a solid 2nd place prize.
No kidding. I'm hoping the Suns have the same idea even though their name hasn't been attached to him. Miss out on LMA and West would be a great guy to stack with Keef.

Of course there have been rumblings of mutual interest between them and Amare as well. No way would he start but I could see him being a nice veteran backup 4. God I can't believe I'm admitting that.
 

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So you think a PF that shoots 36% from 3 and <50% from 2's makes up for his inability to D up the P&R but a post C that can potentially score FG's at 60%+ can't? Granted, in today's game having a stretch 4 helps in other ways aside from the points you get from the 3's themselves, but overall I think there's a good chance that Okafor is a more effective offensive player than Love in his career. You just don't see freshman of that size able to consistently make the plays he was making. And having the potential to block shots on drives etc. as a help defender (which a guy like Love can't do) is still worth a lot.
Yes. It is my opinion that Love's shooting does so much for the floor spacing on the Cavs offensively that it negates his poor PnR defense on the other end. This is pretty evident by just how much more productive the team was with him on the floor vs off the floor.

Again, I'm not saying it's impossible for Okafor to be that offensive player. Just that a successful team, with Okafor as one of the center pieces, is a really hard team to build. I don't know how one could argue that it'seasierto build a team around Okafor than it is Russell.
 

Antilles

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Wes Matthews turning down gobs of money from the Kings and agreeing with the Mavs. Predictably, they really messed up making that move prematurely.

DJ apparently 50/50 between Clips and Mavs so... yeah. I think they are back in the race for LMA. Still think Spurs, pray Suns, but Dallas wouldn't surprise me and it seems like Houston and Portland are toast.
 

Blitz

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Late last night Sam Amick reported that it was the Spurs, Suns, and Mavs out in front. He admitted he was surprised by the Mavs being in play, and this was before the Matthews deal.

Praying there is some way they can work some sign-and-trade's and convince both LMA & DJ to take take one years, with a promise of even more money next year. Its a pipe dream, but lets go for the gusto!
 

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If they did get DJ and LMA, does that mean Dirk goes to SF and Parsons to SG? Seems like that would be a rough transition defensively as I don't think either of them have the speed to guard those positions.
 

Blitz

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If they did get DJ and LMA, does that mean Dirk goes to SF and Parsons to SG? Seems like that would be a rough transition defensively as I don't think either of them have the speed to guard those positions.
Parsons would stay at SF, and Dirk would be a super-sixth man. Imagine Carlisle would find a way to still get Dirk in for 25-30min a game, although I am not quite sure how.
 

DickTrickle

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But at crunch time wouldn't you want Dirk on the floor? And then it seems like you'd have the same issue at the most important time. Or would DJ just be on the bench because of his FT issues?
 

popsicledeath

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Dirk coming off the bench would actually let him rest so he didn't lumber around like a corpse late in games. Get him warmed up throughout the game, but save him for the fourth quarter when DJ is more of a liability anyhow?


Kinda funny at this point the Lakers are in the position of trying to make some trades to eat contracts so they spend the money they're required to spend. David Lee being the best candidate since he's gone in a year. But next year is gonna rock!
 

Blitz

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Like Pop said, I think it would allow Dirk to stay fresh and kind of bring him in late in games fresh.

Joseph Goodman on Twitter:
Report saying Spurs & Mavs are firmly at the front of the LMA race now. Apparently Matthews was LMA's best friend in Portland so that must be what has gotten the Mavs back on the radar, although its gonna be hard seeing him turn down San Antonio. Heat are apparently not actually in the race at all.

Clippers make pitch: DeAndre Jordan to decide future in next few days
Same thing on Jordan, says he will take a few days (hopefully not).

Wonder if the Mavs front office is thinking now that they should've signed Chandler immediately in the $10mil /yr range, gotten Matthews, and then really pushed for LMA from the get go. It would've been really easy to see LMA joining Dallas if they had Chandler solidifying the 5, with the addition of Matthews. Cap space would've been tight, but nothing they couldn't have worked out. Oh well, really excited for the next few days with cautious optimism!

PS.Marc Stein on Twitter:
Stein reporting that if Wizards sign West, Nene would probably become available. With likely team acquiring Nene being the loser of the DJ sweepstakes. I wouldn't be mad at a LMA-Nene consolation prize
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