NBA 2019-2020 Season: Kawhi Saved Us

Jozu said:

I know its a stretch so early in his career, Im just saying his numbers, if maintained for just, another 7 or 8 years would put him close to that threshold. He has been unbelievable, one of the best starts to a young career in NBA history. I could easily see him getting to All-NBA status every year, the triple doubles, court vision, leading statistically the most explosive offensive team ever, creates a good shot virtually EVER single time he touches the ball.

And like I said, he is so young, he is going to get better. That means he is going to put up better numbers, get better at the line, shooting the 3, etc. He could improve on his slash line, which is almost unthinkable. I am a major Doncic nut hugger but I dont see why he cant be an all time great.

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Yeah, just the little thing of keeping it up for 7 or 8 years.

Pretty minor detail, really

Yea he could start to fade a bit, but why? He's only 21, 7 more seasons puts him in his prime at 28 going into his 9th season. Unless he suffers injuries he will be locked up in Dallas playing that up tempo style. He could easily have several phenomenal seasons.

Sort of like Harden. He had a great season, EIGHT years ago. He followed that up with 7 more incredible years in Houston. Is he in the discussion for top 20 players all time?

Shitpost Saturday reminder that the NBA is in league with America’s enemies, and the modern equivalent of Nazi Germany, the CCP. If you watch you’re complicit!

Sebudai said:

Shitpost Saturday reminder that the NBA is in league with America’s enemies, and the modern equivalent of Nazi Germany, the CCP. If you watch you’re complicit!

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Silence is violence, right?

Lol Boston has played well but Stevens needs to figure out a scheme to stop Giannis. They shitted on the Celts last year. Boston new pieces should help, and they are healthy, so its possible.

Jozu said:

Lol Boston has played well but Stevens needs to figure out a scheme to stop Giannis. They shitted on the Celts last year. Boston new pieces should help, and they are healthy, so its possible.

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I know they extended Stevens contract but they never mentioned the years on it. I honestly wanted Stevens out of Boston already pretty much 7 years of failure and his favorite word to use is HOPEFULLY

He hasn't really done much better than Rivers.

Doc got a chip, I dont see Stevens winning one.

celtics in 4!

Celts take care of business.

Kemba + Tatum + Brown just too good offensively and on defense for just Embiid.

Luka can't be possibly end up a top 20 player of all time!

Impossible!

Jozu said:

Luka can't be possibly end up a top 20 player of all time!

Impossible!

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He's got a long way to go.

Absolutely. But I dont think there is anything wrong with identifying him as a once in a generation type talent that has a chance to be an all timer.

Yea like I said he needs another 6 or 7 spectacular seasons to come close to realizing such heights, but its entirely possible.

Is Luca a better player than LeBron was at 20, 21 years old? I say yes.

Better than Durant? I say yes.

Better than Jordan? The stats say yes.

Better than basically everyone who has ever played basketball? Maybe. He is almost averaging 30 8 9 for his career. He is hitting almost 3 threes a game, making only 32% of them, but it allows him to still space the floor at least. And he JUST turned 21.

Jozu said:

Is Luca a better player than LeBron was at 20, 21 years old? I say yes.

Better than Durant? I say yes.

Better than Jordan? The stats say yes.

Better than basically everyone who has ever played basketball? Maybe. He is basically averaging 30 9 9 for his career. He is taking almost 3 threes a game, making only 32% of them, but it allows him to still space the floor at least. And he JUST turned 21.

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No on all accounts.

Jordan came INTO the league at 21. Was averaging damn near 30 to start. Which was crazy in that era. Had a team with like zero veterans. Basically he had absolute SHIT around him at 21. I can't even name a team mate.

Same for Lebron. Name ONE player on Lebron's teams his 1st THREE years. Which was when he turned 21. He was clearly top 3-5 in the NBA at 21. That includes Dirk, Kobe, Duncan etc...

It's not age that matters, but experience in the NBA man. Again back then dudes came into the league a couple years older. Hell Larry Bird was a grown ass man!

I know you're probably not my age (50) I have seen great starts to NBA careers. He definitely is in the conversation, using one of your metrics of age as the defining best player. Would you take Luka over any YOU mentioned he's better than at 21?

Top 20 in history eventually? Come on man, you see those lists? Who's he going to replace? Those dudes from the 60's that none of us have seen play? I might give you that. Would I take Luka over John Havliceck ? In a heartbeat. But that dude was all world in his era.

The best 21 year old I honestly can say I saw playing was Jordan or Magic. Jordan gets the nod in my book for pure best player. But I would start my team with age 21 Magic.

EDIT: BTW. He's a bad mutha fuckka to be sure. Don't want confusion there.

Fair enough. Jordan had a sensational rookie year, Johnson won a title as a rookie, playing center in the finals to boot.

Im just saying, Luka is the most sensational young player since LeBron. Id take Luka over Zion, Ja Morant, and every other player to come in the league since LeBron. AD is dominant but even then I'd rather build with Doncic.

And Luka could end up a better player at the end of his career than Jerry West, Karl Malone, Dirk Nowitzki and at least a couple others. Esp if he wins a title.