Neverwinter: PC

Fuse

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Tide27_sl said:
They spent years making this game, and the most played instance in the game was one that was created in 10 mins flat. What does that tell you?
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It tells me that a lot of people are fucking retarded and that they would rather spend their free time finding ways to not play a game and then qq about lack of content than actually play the game and enjoy it for what it is.

I have a somewhat more optimistic view than Axeman, but I don't disagree with most of his points and that was a well written critique. I just see opportunity for a good amount of fun before those things become issues.



Tide27_sl said:
It doesnt matter if someone spent 100 hours developing the greatest foundry that could ever be developed, if you have 2 foundries....1 being an epic foundry that a team spent hundreds of hours developing, or you had a foundry that had 5 ogres in a crated that could be AE'd from safefy....which do you think would be played more?
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For anyone on the fence about trying this, if your answer to that question is 'Obviously the first one because the second one sounds fucking dumb', you will probably like this game, for a while at least.
 
Raes

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Just wanted to point out that PWE (while still a shitty cash shop company) is just the publisher and it's Cryptic Studios that designs these mediocre games. And yeah, of course they have a lot of working features, they've been using the same engine for years, it saves a lot of dev time, but you can easily see the major limitations it has.
 
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Tide27_sl said:
It doesnt matter if someone spent 100 hours developing the greatest foundry that could ever be developed, if you have 2 foundries....1 being an epic foundry that a team spent hundreds of hours developing, or you had a foundry that had 5 ogres in a crated that could be AE'd from safefy....which do you think would be played more?

This entire game could be considered a well done foundry and what do you see people in chat looking to do? "Too EZ lol"

They spent years making this game, and the most played instance in the game was one that was created in 10 mins flat. What does that tell you?

This game proves that the majority of players dont care anything at all about the journey from point A to B, only getting to point B as soon as possible. Weve seen that in every game played thus far, its just much more noticeable here. Even the "uber" Guild Wars 2 guild from here did the same shit. As soon as they were aware that escorting Yaks was the easiest and fastest method to leveling, they did it until it got nerfed.
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Axeman's point was that people can't make good content, not that some people will make easy-to-cheese content and others will exploit it. Certainly a lot of junk will end up on the foundry, but a lot of cool stuff will bubble up, too.
 
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Draegan_sl said:
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I'm down. Almost 20 on my GWF, still having a great time with it. I tried the EZ xp Foundry quests (there's one set up for GWFs lol) but god damn it's boring. I'd rather slug through the base content and at least get something out of my time besides +gooderer.
 
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Looks like they removed "too ez lol"?
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Ryanz

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Axeman pretty much sealed the deal for me. The game was fun for a couple days, but I've gone back to TERA and it's just a far superior experience. Yes, it's Asian, and it has Asian style graphics and art, but as far as an action based MMO is concerned there's nothing better on the market right now.
 
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Tide27_sl

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Draegan_sl said:
I tried the GWF foundry quest and it was boring as fuck. Took forever.
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Well the AE version of "Too Easy took about 13 mins for every 2 levels if you had several AE classes. The melee version was boring because you had to kill about 20 elites 1 at a time and its slow as molasses. With the range AE version you would just walk up to the platform and tape , macro , repeat, whatever your 1 key and come back 12 mins later with 2 to 2 1/2 levels of experience. Goes much faster with the more wizards / clerics you have. The melee version at least required you to be at your keyboard.
 
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No, you can have your first level 60 as a ranged toon, or just make a ranged toon on a 2nd account and PL yourself up an army. A level 60 AE class can group with a level 4 melee class and be just as effective since there is no exp reduction due to level differences.
 
Agraza

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I did like the combo stuff in TERA a lot, but I had a weird graphics glitch that made buildings load slow. TERA's questing is pretty lame, but the actual combat was much better, and that seemed like the heart of the game.
 
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Kedwyn

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Terra's combat is second to none (could of used a few less skills though), still the best of any MMO. Just not clicker friendly at all (which doesn't impact me one bit but it culls the herd quickly if you are one) Nice to see some bastardized attempts at copying it and if Neverwinter didn't go for the hard animation lock on everything it wouldn't be so bad. Fortunately another game coming is avoiding that we'll just have to see how the rest of it pans out.
 
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Draegan_sl said:
My GWF is up to 15 now. I kind of dig the class but it's slow going right now.
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I duo'd with a GWF as a cleric from level 5->28 and we flew through content. I out dps'd him until about level 15ish when he got the blue mace from Cloaktower. After that, we realized that we had pretty decent ae together, and would just ae everything.
 
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Lodor_sl

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The 50 ogre in platemail foundry had me go from 17 to 21 in a single run as a trickster.

It is called grinding gauntlet.

You just get tons of greens, potions, ID scrolls and silver from this foundry also.
 
Mr Creed

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Tide27_sl said:
Axeman is pretty spot on with his assesment of the game. While I was enjoying it to some extent, the ease in which it is exploitable will be the downfall.

Every one of those features that Axeman brought up is to generate revenue, and even if only 1% of the players took advantage of it, it would still be a nice constant stream of revenue if the game would be played longer than to just wait till the other MMOs come out.

The foundry allows near infinite revenue stream pouring out at an astronomical pace, it allows content to be skipped from 4-60, and all of these ZEN market items that they are counting on for revenue will just be bypassed due to the nature of foundrys.

You dont need to worry about respeccing, you dont need to worry about dying, you dont need to worry about a mount to get you around, you dont have to worry about bag space, you dont have to worry about farming currency....

Foundry bypasses all of that and will assure Perfect World a complete lack of stream of revenue and when the game fails, they will just have wasted this huge opportunity and many years of development time and blame the consumers for not wanting their product...which in turn leads to less companies wanting try another MMO due to all the massive casualties the MMO developers are causing.

Once again we have a development studio that is going to have another massive failure due to their incompetance.

I mean literally, sit in the Protectors Enclace and every group forming is foundry, foundry, foundry, foundry. Each and every one of them is doing the "Too EZ lol" foundry where you literally walk 10 ft from the entrance and cast AoEs and the mobs cant touch you to level from 15-60. Most start at 15 because thats when they get AE spells, but you can have a lvl 60 group with a level 4 and powerlvl them up to level 60 in a matter of no time.
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Fuse_sl said:
It tells me that a lot of people are fucking retarded and that they would rather spend their free time finding ways to not play a game and then qq about lack of content than actually play the game and enjoy it for what it is.

I have a somewhat more optimistic view than Axeman, but I don't disagree with most of his points and that was a well written critique. I just see opportunity for a good amount of fun before those things become issues.


For anyone on the fence about trying this, if your answer to that question is 'Obviously the first one because the second one sounds fucking dumb', you will probably like this game, for a while at least.
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What he says. It tells me many people are idiots that dont even know why they're playing the game. The thing is the goodfoundry content will be made and it'll probably be fun. Neverwinter nights 1 had some sweet mods and even small persistant worlds from what I am told. I dont give a damn about 100 ogres in a box. I play the game to experience an entertaining story or good, engaging gameplay (or ideally both in the same game, that' getting rare though).
 
Ash80

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Whats the contact infos for some Guild Action I seen a Draegen around, it was a Dwarf, Wisperd em, dude just said nope not the Dragen your lookin for lol.... got a couple toons past 20 atm
 
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What server is everyone playing on? Might kill some time tomorrow in this game. Also on the founder packs, is that for one toon only, or are the perks granted to every toon you roll?
 
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