New Progression Server confirmed

Kreugen_sl said:

The trick to poopsocking was alt-tab and MQ2. Or Damdor stories.

I didn't participate in too many though. I was mostly just hanging around until we got past the need for that shit.

Someone PL me in a year.

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Honestly thinking back on live I didn't either much, was always a mobility race once something spawned for the most part. Or my boy Bruuce here protecting the USA by bombing the EU guilds when they mobilized in off hours or tried to poopsock shit.

murica

Krassus_sl said:

Honestly thinking back on live I didn't either much, was always a mobility race once something spawned for the most part. Or my boy Bruuce here protecting the USA by bombing the EU guilds when they mobilized in off hours or tried to poopsock shit.

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Man I miss honest to god mobility races. Shame people started poopsocking as a response to being shitty at mobilizing for real.

BruuceWarduck_sl said:

murica

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Ill never forget your heroism fav

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Have you been reading this thread? You see your Dima is the main guild leader on these TLP servers?)

Vaclav_sl said:

Man I miss honest to god mobility races. Shame people started poopsocking as a response to being shitty at mobilizing for real.

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Being shitty at mobilizing isn't the only reason poopsocking has become the defacto way of engaging raid targets. Back in 1999/2000 people had computers that could barely run 1 instance of the game, let alone multiple. And the time investment needed back then to keep advancing your character meant that you weren't going to just sit your character on a spawn point for hours on end doing nothing. People actually wanted to PLAY the game. There was tradeskills, quests, item camps, etc. that needed to be done outside of and alongside raiding. Sure you would have the odd "sit your char at a camp while you watched TV" nights, but more often than not, people were actually at their comps playing their characters, even during possible target windows.

As the game has aged, information about most efficient leveling/gearing paths has become wide-spread and computers have become vastly more powerful, the reasons NOT to poopsock have become less and less. The "classic experience" just doesn't age well with this game, and never will.

I'd still label all that stuff as "being shitty at mobilizing" - you're talking about stuff that indirectly makes you shitty at mobilizing after all.

Vaclav_sl said:

I'd still label all that stuff as "being shitty at mobilizing" - you're talking about stuff that indirectly makes you shitty at mobilizing after all.

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Yes, but in 1999/2000 the opportunity to poopsock wasn't really viable if you actually wanted to PLAY the game. Now, with computers that are capable of running entire raid's worth of clients, leaving one account sitting a raid target (or multiple targets) while you play others is not only viable, but optimal. It's the difference between having to mobilize 30 actual people and having to hit a hotkey to make 30 accounts all follow each other in MQ2.

I'd call it "being shitty at mobilizing + the opportunity to making poopsocking viable". I have no illusions that poopsocking wouldn't have happened in 1999/2000 if computers were sufficient to allow it while also allowing people to play the game in other ways.

BruuceWarduck_sl said:

murica

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During the time my guild was raiding VT on Sol Ro teheuroslaya's antics killing all our euro competition gave us a lot of VT action we'd have had a hard time achieving without him. /salute

Am I just missing something or is there no way for a Bertox worshipping gnome mage to buy spells in Akanon? I saw no vendors in the evil area and the other vendors are all dubious.

Not really a big deal since you can just ship stuff via the shared bank, but still pretty dumb.

This update has completed.

Update Notes

*** Highlights ***

- We are re-enabling True Box on Test for the upcoming Phinigel server. This means that only one client will be usable from each physical machine until our tests are done at which time we will disable this functionality. There is no current ETA of when this will be disabled.
[Edit] We've disabled the one account per machine checks again due to issues.

*** Progression Server Raid Instancing ***

- The first iteration of instancing intended for the Phinigel server is now on Test. Please try these instances out and let us know what you discover. There are currently some issues with the Plane of Hate (NPCs spawning under the world) and the Plane of Air (NPCs spawning on zone up that should not). These are being fixed. To access these instances, seek out the Agent of Change in Lavastorm, Cauldron, Everfrost, Paineel, Feerrott, South Ro, and East Freeport. Each of these should send you to instances of raid zones you would find in nearby zones. For example, go to Everfrost to find the Agent of Change that will send you to an instance of Permafrost.
- Lockouts should be given for each "boss" killed. Also, a 2.5 day replay lockout will be given when the instance is given and increased by 4 days if the boss is killed.
- There will also be a "lockout" for the "basepop" in these instances given once one of those NPCs is killed. This lockout will prevent looting of those NPCs in instances obtained after the lockout is given.

Launch is less than one week away and they're still having issues with the "true box" mechanic lol.

So this 2.5 day replay lockout, how will that work? Does this mean if a player leaves and instance w/o killing a boss they're unable to zone back in for 2.5 days? Will this mean you can't rez back into the zone if you die during a raid?

Also if that basepop lockout is to stop people from joining post boss kill for loot I hope that implies that instanced loot will be no drop.

lost_sl said:

I mean its cool this "server is for the casuals" I have a few friends that couldnt keep up with ragefire, but when I asked them if they're going to phinny since its so casual friendly, as any sane person would say "no way it took me long enough to get to max level on ragefire i dont have the time to do that all over again"

so yeah we'll see

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Do we think this server will be as big a success as it appears, or will it end up a disappointment?

is there a rerolled guild going for this?

It'll be a massive success for everyone that isn't a jaded RF/LJ "we would have been the best but" almost-uber fleeing their husk of a server to be the conquerors of Phinny.

Arbitrary_sl said:

It'll be a massive success for everyone that isn't a jaded RF/LJ "we would have been the best but" almost-uber fleeing their husk of a server to be the conquerors of Phinny.

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There's a decent number of those - there's plenty of "didn't care, but would rather have something consistent to do" folks too however.

As well as "Screw 6 months!" in the case of what was the final nail in TL.

Krassus_sl said:

Ill never forget your heroism fav

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Drade_sl said:

During the time my guild was raiding VT on Sol Ro teheuroslaya's antics killing all our euro competition gave us a lot of VT action we'd have had a hard time achieving without him. /salute

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Krassus_sl said:

Have you been reading this thread? You see your Dima is the main guild leader on these TLP servers?)

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I did see this and I wasnt totally surprised. That dude lived for EQ. That was nurmalls bff. I remember he used to always walk around and /d literally everyone lol. I wonder how old dude was back then