New World

nu_11 said:

The no-lifers need to be a status symbol for the plebes. But game should still be fun for the plebes as well... which is where WoW has failed.

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more or less.

just watched Arch's commentary on this. I've been out of the mmo game for a while.
ultima online, daoc, lineage, lineage2, wow, rift, gw2, wildstar, sw:kotor. and a few others dicking around for limited times. blackdesert, etc, various free betas..

A location/crafting/material based econ is good. one of the best pvp experiences was in wow... fighting over alchemy mats. material based pvp was in Lineage 2 as well.
Materials should be controllable on some level. Although not hard lockouts. like the mine that has 10 iron nodes, can be controlled. but, there are other smaller iron nodes about.. its just way more efficient to control that mine.

The forced faction based pvp in wow is a good element though. in lineage, you are shit out of luck solo. and, then forced into heavy pvp in a guild, fighting for those mats, farming locations.
Gw2, and the like... A guild is entirely capable farming, and supplying its own mats, etc. this is a design flaw. the correct way would be, forced "allegiances" daoc, but probably more random. not everyone being able to just pick the winning team. A guild shouldn't be able to supply the war effort alone. Rando's and casuals should essentially be vassals. Like, say I spawn in hometown x. its owned by guild FOH. this makes me a Vassal of FOH automatically. now, I get a exp boost, and cash boost for selling items to the guild. maybe we take this even further with rep, and other in game benefits. some coded, some more human related. like, if the GM gets notified when I some rando, donate large amounts of base mats. which would encourage the GM to directly thank, or give out gifts themselves in return.

I as a plebe, should feel like part of the war effort, not prey for the guilds, or ignored entirely. I feel most of the mmos totally fail at this. Either the are ignored entirely, or super unfun to play, as you are just a massive target for everyone. (or third option, is the game is just designed for guilds, so solo player just can't ever get anything done themselves, and is super unfun. archeage, etc.)

Gravel said:

The intro being after about level 12-15 or so?

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I would say 'until after you chose your faction' and the main story quest sends you to see the Hermit. Your starting location will also set a bunch of quests specific to the newbie experience for that region (they still have some work to do here, though), but once you hit somewhere between 8-15 you'll see quests pop up in other settlements and that's your cue that you should be able to travel to them.

Intro to me is until 8 when you choose your faction and move forward

Bobbybick said:

Aaaaaaaaand Town Board projects nerfed from 5min refresh to 30min.

Time to find the next not-shit way to gain xp.

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The best exp Ive seen so far is to find yourself a roaming group that does invasions back to back to back. I went up 3 levels in about an hour of that. Once you get separated from the horde though, it is insanely hard to catch back up. I didnt have any towers unlocked for one zone and lost them entirely, for example.

Xerge said:

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Funny how he uses the exact same setup as Im using. The axe and hammer combo is just epic af.

Was out hunting Buffalo yesterday. Im just randomly zig zagging all over that area trying to compete for kills, then suddenly I came up on a group of players in the prone position. Had no idea they were there until I was literally on top of them, like you said. I got down with them and sat there for a minute while watching tv and chatting with them. Next thing I know, a few Covenant roll up and start hunting Buffalo, too. Few seconds go by and they apparently had all targeted the same kill order. The yellows went down in a mere few seconds to muskets. Was probably one of the cooler things Ive seen in the game so far. Though just talking about the experience does it no justice. Just gotta see it.

I find it neat seeing people relegate Covenant colors to old time derogatory terms. Ive seen people call Syndicate Nances and yanks. Covenant as yellow bellies etc. Have yet to anything derogatory for Marauders, but Im playing one - so I dont get to see/hear others talk that much. Voice Chat being open is f'n hilarious and I have no idea how they are going to police that shit.

The three factions match gang colors. Launch guild w ill be called Grove Street Families

I played enough to get the info I wanted. Wasn't going to grind to max level and/or crafting in a 2 week beta. Just burn myself out when you turn around and do it again a month later. Have to decide on what weapon still. Mostly still learning towards life staff with the downside its not really conductive to solo pvp at all and basically requires you to have people to play with if you want to flag up and run around. I wish they had a focus based secondary weapon. Only stat with just 1 weapon. Hopefully they have some hindsight to do something about faction imbalance. As I can see that getting extremely out of hand, though history tells me nope and its just going to be very 1 sided on most servers.

Expectations at this point are I will play for for however many months until Lost Ark comes out. Fall 2021 is just too damn vague.

Yeah, I'm having about the same thoughts. With the weapon stuff though, on the plus side, you can always change. And at least up til 20, it's free to respec. Not sure what it costs after.

I like life staff too, but it seems like you'll gimp yourself hard as fuck if you ever want to solo.

swayze22 said:

There isn't an absurd amount of running unless that's how your playing the game IMO.

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I can't get big enough eyes to eyeroll this. Stop with this BS. Game is more track and field than MMO.