NFL 2015-2016 Season Thread

Jozu_sl said:

It just speaks to Jed Yorks faggotry.

As long as that little weasel is running things this franchise is going to be shite.

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A lot of it is actually on Baalke, honestly. He had an amazing 2010 and 2011 draft, but he hasn't done jack shit since. Just like every franchise that sees a period of success that lasts a few years, they slowly bleed off talent in Free Agency, which left the cupboard completely bare for Tomsula. Good GMs methodically replace talent that leaves through free agency, usually via the draft, but sometimes with the right FA signings (Reggie Bush was a real fucking genius move!).

Baalke keeps missing on draft picks by making stupid ass decisions - like wasting 5th round picks on punters, taking red shirts that had devastating college injuries and never really recovered (and fell in the draft as a result, so he thought he was getting a "steal"). The jury is still out on a few guys like Armstead, Dontae Johnson, Ward, etc., but so far his only "successes" since 2011 have been Hyde and Lynch. You could maybe put Reid in that category also, but he has been fucking awful this year.

Harbaugh was Baalke/Yorks scapegoat last year and Kaepernick is that guy this year. Don't get me wrong, Kaepernick is no Joe Montana, but he's a hell of a lot better than any QB we can realistically hope to acquire. His biggest issue (and coaches that have left the team since have said the same thing) is that he doesn't trust his receivers. After the Super Bowl the coaches really expected that Kaepernick had a massive ceiling (he did). They even said that he got better and worked on almost every area of his game - except one: trust. He stopped trusting his WRs to "be there" when the ball got there. I don't know if it's the shoddy o-line play, the plays at the goal-line in Super Bowl 47, the plays at the goal-line in the NFCCG in 2013, or what, but that's why you see him rocket the ball to receivers (he doesn't throw it until the very last second, which leads to balls with no touch, or an INT), hold the ball too long, etc. He's waiting too long for guys to "get open", instead of just trusting that they'll be open when the ball is there.

I think that's why the playcalling in 2014 seemed so atrocious. I think they were calling a lot of things that were attempts at getting Kaepernick to see/read/trust his receivers better. It may have been something that they could have slowly developed into him gaining that confidence back, but with Harbaugh and his staff being used as last year's scapegoat, we'll never know.

So, for now, we get to enjoy the 2004 49ers all over again. It's going to be a long, painful journey.

Alex_sl said:

After last year's TNF fiasco I wouldn't count on a blowout. Only hope is how many Browns starters are out. Haden always shuts down AJ so with him out the air attack should at least make an appearance. First primetime game of the season so of course there's some nervousness here.

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I feel oddly nervous about tonight's game

Despite being a Clevelander I want to see the Browns lose every game here on out. This isn't about the Draft because we can't even do that right. It's all about burning the organization to the ground and doing a complete rebuild. One coach or one quarterback isn't going to magic their way to a good team.

The Browns may be the absolute worst organization at drafting skill positions

Last coach to get another NFL HC job after leaving Lions was Buddy Parker in 1957. 16 coaches have come, gone since then w/out resurfacing.

Fun stats!

Famm_sl said:

Both of them probably for similar reasons. They end up playing from behind and passing a billion times. Not that Rivers isn't better than Stafford, it helps to have Megatron out there catching balls. But still, lots of that is just garbage stats as much as evidence of super quarterbacking.

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I remember a few years ago after Stafford's like 40+ TD season there were people talking about how the rise of the passing game to ridiculous levels and Stafford having 50 attempts a game was going to end up with him in the top 10 passing yards all time.

Hoss_sl said:

I thought the charger's problem was the super bowl curse. Any time they had a decent team with a shot, they'd be hosting the SB that year and fall apart.

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Guessing the Chargers issues weren't helped that the years when they had their best teams (with LT in his prime, etc) was also the same time when the AFC was all Brady's Pats vs. Manning's Colts, along with AFC North juggernauts Pittsburgh and Baltimore. AFC was stacked during that time, reminded me of the NFC through the 80's and early 90's.

Lleauaric_sl said:

Up to date research is hard for some of these fools.

At least let me offer something pretty current.

Real Football Network

The short yardage game for New England has evolved into the quasi running game where they can complete high percentage passes in order to create more favorable down and distance situations for their offense. New England dominates on 3rd and short. The reality is that throwing the ball down field isnt that efficient and creates unfavorable 3rd and long situations. There are no good 3rd and 10 plays, but there are playbooks filled with great 3rd and 4 plays. Its the matchups they create that make it easy for the offense to dictate pace and tempo.

Can Brady throw down field? Duh. Turn on any film from 2007 and watch one of the greatest downfield passing exhibitions of all time. But then things changed and the book on Brady became "Get A Gap Pressure on him and force the quick throw". So Brady changed. Some of that came with the rise of Gronkowski and his dominance, but a lot of it was in response to what teams were trying to do to him. You see your AFC East rivals investing heavily in Defensive lines, so you adjust. These teams spend 100s of millions of dollars working on a defense designed to get pressure on Brady and he completely nullifies it by releasing the ball in 1.8 seconds on average. Chess vs Checkers.

But guess what... I don't see lots of teams playing the Patriots without safety help over the top. If Brady wasn't capable of throwing the ball deep, teams would be daring him to. They don't seem to be willing to do that.

But then... He would just adjust again if they did.Tom Brady Surprised By His Improved Deep-Ball Accuracy In Patriots Passing Game | New England Patriots | NESN.com

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Second sentence of the article: "As his passing chart indicates, the majority of Brady?s attempts targets what we define as short-range passes (0-10 yards)."

Where is the part where I'm wrong about saying he mostly throws short passes and his receivers get YAC? Oh right, I'm not. According to that chart he was 4/12 in deep balls and had thrown 1 touchdown that was 11+ yards.

Like I said, short passes and his receivers do the work.

Kirun_sl said:

After the Super Bowl the coaches really expected that Kaepernick had a massive ceiling (he did). They even said that he got better and worked on almost every area of his game - except one: trust. He stopped trusting his WRs to "be there" when the ball got there. I don't know if it's the shoddy o-line play, the plays at the goal-line in Super Bowl 47, the plays at the goal-line in the NFCCG in 2013, or what, but that's why you see him rocket the ball to receivers (he doesn't throw it until the very last second, which leads to balls with no touch, or an INT), hold the ball too long, etc. He's waiting too long for guys to "get open", instead of just trusting that they'll be open when the ball is there.

I think that's why the playcalling in 2014 seemed so atrocious. I think they were calling a lot of things that were attempts at getting Kaepernick to see/read/trust his receivers better. It may have been something that they could have slowly developed into him gaining that confidence back, but with Harbaugh and his staff being used as last year's scapegoat, we'll never know.

So, for now, we get to enjoy the 2004 49ers all over again. It's going to be a long, painful journey.

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Seriously? Trust? That's what you think Kaepernick's problem is? Really going out of your way here to prove how retarded you are about football.

relevant and recent:

Tom Brady Compares His Deep Ball Accuracy To His Golf Swing CBS Boston


also look how hard Xevy is trying to not come right out and say - "tom brady is a system quarterback and is incapable of making some throws"

Xevy KNOWS this is false, he's just stoking the fire with bullshit because he doesnt want to be quoted or negged by actually saying what he's trying to imply.

I've watched 80% of Patriot's game and what I said was based on what I saw. Luckily one of you had the recent statistics to back my claim up.

I'm pretty sure every one of you Pats fans already negged me as soon as you could and have to spend reputation before you can do it again. I just wish they weren't anonymous so I could keep "The *List" up to date.

Xevy_sl said:

I'm pretty sure every one of you Pats fans already negged me as soon as you could and have to spend reputation before you can do it again. I just wish they weren't anonymous so I could keep "The *List" up to date.

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no. like the colts, you're irrelevant.

Negs are as relevant as your last 4 Super Bowl *wins.

Man it's just so weird how there aren't actually any asterisks on any sort of official NFL held list of championship winners.


Just so strange isn't it?

How did Azeth* not go further in the asshat of the year ?

Likely because only hyper-uneducated/unintelligent people don't see truth in my posts.

Not my fucking problem you root for the wrong team

no Uber disagrees with me too. Probably Lenardo too.

It's like me and lleauricawhatthefuckisthespelling holding down no-retards-allowed town

also to be candid i just like talking shit with other guys about the NFL. /shrug