NFL 2019 Season: It's Tricky!

Merrith · Nov 15, 2019

zombiewizardhawk said:
Feels bad for the guy who kicks someone in the head while they're on the ground defenseless?

Which only happened because the same guy on the ground swung a football helmet at the head of a player without one? Who happens to be the QB for the team Pouncey plays for?

Of course he deserves to get suspended for the punches and kicks, but fucker swung a helmet and nailed his QB on his unprotected head...he reacted how I'd expect any O lineman to react. You think he's running over to do any of that if Garrett didn't swing the helmet?

Rude · Nov 15, 2019

zombiewizardhawk said:
???

Are you referring to me saying Pouncey or whoever it was should be also suspended for kicking the Browns player in the head after they take him to the ground?

Feels bad for the guy who kicks someone in the head while they're on the ground defenseless?

Go take another hit of acid you dumb fuck.

Utnayan · Nov 15, 2019

DickTrickle said:
He will be back next year, guaranteed

Depends on what you mean by back. Reinstated? Possibly. Picked up by a team or held by the Browns? I think that would be interesting to see.

Incognito pulled this same garbage that it almost tanked his career.

If Garrett pulls an Antonio Brown escapade during the next two weeks, which I think he will, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets cut and no one touches him after that.

If he apologizes, takes his punishment, and stays on the straight and narrow, I would agree he would be back next year if he gets reinstated.

zombiewizardhawk · Nov 15, 2019

Merrith said:
Which only happened because the same guy on the ground swung a football helmet at the head of a player without one? Who happens to be the QB for the team Pouncey plays for?

Of course he deserves to get suspended for the punches and kicks, but fucker swung a helmet and nailed his QB on his unprotected head...he reacted how I'd expect any O lineman to react. You think he's running over to do any of that if Garrett didn't swing the helmet?

I think a brawl broke out and all the shitheads deserve their suspensions. I don't have any pity for someone who tries to pull a straight American Inventor move and kick a guy in the head while he's on the ground with multiple people on top of him, regardless of who starts shit (after throwing multiple punches). I also think you can do just as much damage kicking someone square in the head while they're on the ground as you can by swinging a helmet over your head and over another dude while being shoved backwards. This doesn't mean I don't think Garrett should get suspended (or banned since apparently he has a history of being a retard), but it's absurd to think only the Browns players should be held responsible for their actions or punished for anything that happened in that game.

Bubbles · Nov 15, 2019

their next meet at Pittsburgh in a couple of weeks is gonna be interesting.

Garrett is gonna get off pretty easy when it's all over and done (after appeals). Most likely suspended for the rest of the season. Longest suspension for the on field incident is so little as 5 games. Haynesworth's head stomping, like 10 years ago.

Chanur · Nov 15, 2019

Utnayan said:
Depends on what you mean by back. Reinstated? Possibly. Picked up by a team or held by the Browns? I think that would be interesting to see.

Incognito pulled this same garbage that it almost tanked his career.

If Garrett pulls an Antonio Brown escapade during the next two weeks, which I think he will, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets cut and no one touches him after that.

If he apologizes, takes his punishment, and stays on the straight and narrow, I would agree he would be back next year if he gets reinstated.

He already was pretty contrite after the game. I suspect he will be back playing for the Browns next year. Difference between him and Incognito is age, talent, draft position.

Merrith · Nov 15, 2019

zombiewizardhawk said:
I think a brawl broke out and all the shitheads deserve their suspensions. I don't have any pity for someone who tries to pull a straight American Inventor move and kick a guy in the head while he's on the ground with multiple people on top of him, regardless of who starts shit (after throwing multiple punches). I also think you can do just as much damage kicking someone square in the head while they're on the ground as you can by swinging a helmet over your head and over another dude while being shoved backwards. This doesn't mean I don't think Garrett should get suspended (or banned since apparently he has a history of being a retard), but it's absurd to think only the Browns players should be held responsible for their actions or punished for anything that happened in that game.

Which...no one said Pouncey shouldn't be suspended. I simply stated I completely understood where he was coming from.

And yes...in theory, you can do just as much damage. Although if we're talking about the punches and kicks that Pouncey actually did to a helmeted Garrett (versus hypothetical kicks to the head of someone on the ground), there's just no way he has the chance to do near as much damage as Garrett did with his actual helmet swing at Rudolph. Still bad, but they were fairly weak in comparison.

BrutulTM · Nov 15, 2019

I'm surprised Rudolph didn't at least get fined. It didn't look to me like he was just an innocent victim in all of that.

Merrith · Nov 15, 2019

BrutulTM said:
I'm surprised Rudolph didn't at least get fined. It didn't look to me like he was just an innocent victim in all of that.

Mason Rudolph will be fined for role in TNF brawl

Rengak · Nov 15, 2019

Merrith · Nov 15, 2019

OJ trolling so hard. Cracks me up people seem oblivious to what got Rudolph heated initially, and the idea he wouldn't go walking after the guy who just ripped his helmet off (and was still holding it). It's all good, just keep it Myles. Maybe sign it before you hand it back.

Hoss · Nov 15, 2019

Looked to me like Rudolph was trying to gouge Garret's eyes. But if Garret didn't say that then maybe not, or maybe he just didn't get very close. Person who told me about it this morning thought Rudolph had kicked Garret in the nuts. I don't see that in any video.

Nester · Nov 15, 2019

Myles

Bubbles said:
their next meet at Pittsburgh in a couple of weeks is gonna be interesting.

Garrett is gonna get off pretty easy when it's all over and done (after appeals). Most likely suspended for the rest of the season. Longest suspension for the on field incident is so little as 5 games. Haynesworth's head stomping, like 10 years ago.

Vontez Burfect called, as he has some free time due to his 12 game suspension this year he would like to know if you even watch football.

DickTrickle · Nov 15, 2019

zombiewizardhawk said:
I think a brawl broke out and all the shitheads deserve their suspensions. I don't have any pity for someone who tries to pull a straight American Inventor move and kick a guy in the head while he's on the ground with multiple people on top of him, regardless of who starts shit (after throwing multiple punches). I also think you can do just as much damage kicking someone square in the head while they're on the ground as you can by swinging a helmet over your head and over another dude while being shoved backwards. This doesn't mean I don't think Garrett should get suspended (or banned since apparently he has a history of being a retard), but it's absurd to think only the Browns players should be held responsible for their actions or punished for anything that happened in that game.

Helmet on versus helmet off makes a pretty huge goddamn difference in your protection level. As does swinging with a fist versus a helmet.

Gavinmad · Nov 15, 2019

Can you even play a professional sport while you're on probation?

Hoss · Nov 15, 2019

Gavinmad said:
Can you even play a professional sport while you're on probation?

Yes you have to get permission to travel to every game though.

I thought I remembered Jerry hired pac man jones a personal body guard / probation officer when he was a cowboy. But that might not have been official probation. however, pac man was on probation in 2011 and still played for the bungles.

Brahma · Nov 15, 2019

Utnayan said:
Depends on what you mean by back. Reinstated? Possibly. Picked up by a team or held by the Browns? I think that would be interesting to see.

Incognito pulled this same garbage that it almost tanked his career.

If Garrett pulls an Antonio Brown escapade during the next two weeks, which I think he will, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets cut and no one touches him after that.

If he apologizes, takes his punishment, and stays on the straight and narrow, I would agree he would be back next year if he gets reinstated.

He's already apologized in front of his locker.

He will get a game or two more NEXT season so players don't forget.

Brahma · Nov 15, 2019

Fuck. I'm thinking exactly like O.J. Clearly I killed Nicole.

Brahma said:
Rudolph started it. Tried to pull Garrets helmet off. Garret succeeded in pulling off Rudolphs'. Rudolph is pissed the fuck off and keeps coming at Garret even after his team mates pull Garret off him AND stepping between the two. Garret goes full retard and hits Rudolph with his own helmet. Both out rest of season is what I would hope for.

Rengak said:

Chanur · Nov 15, 2019

Brahma said:
Ok...6+ is harsh. But there is no way I don't look to suspend Rudolph.

Rudolph was sacked late by Garrett. It was intentional that is why he was pissed. Rudolph might get something because he kept going back to the pile, but he would not get suspended for the initial helmet grab stuff.

Brahma · Nov 15, 2019

Chanur said:
Rudolph was sacked late by Garrett. It was intentional that is why he was pissed. Rudolph might get something because he kept going back to the pile, but he would not get suspended for the initial helmet grab stuff.

Still haven't seen what actually started this all. I'm going to assume that you're correct, then that changes the narrative.

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