[NO Spoilers] Star Wars: Episode 7 - NO PUSSY SHIT

kitsune

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I kinda wish they would do legacy of the force, it's set in the time when luke and the gang are 60-70 and is kind of a throwback to the original trilogy but not in a bad way like the prequels. If you erase a lot of the mandalorian stuff I think you could have some pretty cool movies, really
 

Chukzombi

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yes it does, the death star was something never seen before. and if tech never changes then Luke wouldnt have anything negative to say about the Falcon when he first sees it.
 

Nebuchadnezzar

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The six movies actually have pretty clear technological progression, especially with starships. Acclamator (Ep2) -----> Venator (Ep3) -----> Victory (in between) -----> Imperial (Ep4) -----> Super (Ep5).
 

Vlett

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I kinda wish they would do legacy of the force, it's set in the time when luke and the gang are 60-70 and is kind of a throwback to the original trilogy but not in a bad way like the prequels. If you erase a lot of the mandalorian stuff I think you could have some pretty cool movies, really
Not to nit pick, but Luke isn't 60-70 in this series. I'm pretty sure Luke's son Ben is only 13. The mandalorian stuff can't be thrown out with any finesse either, the hole would be too big. This series would get a lot of flak from popular media, but the story itself is much better than episode 1-3. Some of the force techniques that are used would be talked about for decades.
 

Burnesto

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The six movies actually have pretty clear technological progression, especially with starships. Acclamator (Ep2) -----> Venator (Ep3) -----> Victory (in between) -----> Imperial (Ep4) -----> Super (Ep5).
They also go from X and Y wings to adding A and B wings.
 

The Ancient_sl

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Oh god I got a neg, so someone is stupid enough to be serious about this.

Star Wars is shit for science fiction. It makes no sense. The tech statement was a joke about how KOTOR and the Movies use the exact same technology thousands of years apart.

Fucking nerds.
 

Merrith

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Not to nit pick, but Luke isn't 60-70 in this series. I'm pretty sure Luke's son Ben is only 13. The mandalorian stuff can't be thrown out with any finesse either, the hole would be too big. This series would get a lot of flak from popular media, but the story itself is much better than episode 1-3. Some of the force techniques that are used would be talked about for decades.
He's likely 55+...Legacy of the Force was 40 years after Episode 4. Don't remember if he was in the 15-18 year old range for Episode 4 but it's likely I would assume. 70 is pretty far off but 60 isn't.
 

Vlett

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Oh god I got a neg, so someone is stupid enough to be serious about this.

Star Wars is shit for science fiction. It makes no sense. The tech statement was a joke about how KOTOR and the Movies use the exact same technology thousands of years apart.

Fucking nerds.
Lol, complaining about nerds in a Star Wars thread gave me the giggles.
 

Vlett

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He's likely 55+...Legacy of the Force was 40 years after Episode 4. Don't remember if he was in the 15-18 year old range for Episode 4 but it's likely I would assume. 70 is pretty far off but 60 isn't.
Yea, I guess 55 would be the minimum. Luke doesn't do anything too impressive compared to what you would expect from the Master of the Jedi Order in this series, the series after this one though there were a lot of cool moments. (Another 3 years or so into the future) It also makes him seem younger than pushing 60 with the badassery.
 

Gavinmad

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yes it does, the death star was something never seen before. and if tech never changes then Luke wouldnt have anything negative to say about the Falcon when he first sees it.
Uh, what? Maybe there haven't been any super-stations in living memory by the time of the star wars movies, but they aren't exactly a brand new innovation to the galaxy at that point. And what does the unchanging tech level of Star Wars have to do with Luke criticizing the Falcon? It looks like a poorly maintained hunk of shit, which is what he was complaining about.

They also go from X and Y wings to adding A and B wings.
A and B wings don't represent new levels of technology, they represent the resources of the Mon Calamari joining the Rebel Alliance. How about the fact that hyperdrives haven't gotten any faster in thousands of years?
 

Chukzombi

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Han says he modded the falcon. That means he updated its tech to go faster. the death star can destroy planets. Its tech thats never been seen before. The plans of the death star were smuggled out so they could find a weakness. Hi new tech. In jedi the second death star was modified so it wouldnt get destroyed get blown up like the first one. Hi newer tech. I refuse to discuss shit from the prequels.
 

Burnesto

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A and B wings don't represent new levels of technology, they represent the resources of the Mon Calamari joining the Rebel Alliance. How about the fact that hyperdrives haven't gotten any faster in thousands of years?
Both were developed after the Battle of Yavin I'm pretty sure.
 

Nebuchadnezzar

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X wings came from Z-95 headhunters which came from ARC-170s (Ep3). A wings were created by General Jan Dodonna thinking that a faster fighter might have been useful during the trench run just after the Death Star was destroyed, they were based on the Delta-7 Jedi Starfigthers (Ep2) and V wings (Ep3). B wings I'm pretty sure was Admiral Ackbar making something new. You also have the whole Eta-2 (Ep3) to TIE Fighter to TIE Interceptor evolution too. Hyperdrives have gotten faster, during the Clone Wars they were Class 3, during the Rebellion they were Class 2 or 1.

Again...just for the movies and surrounding EU, the tech build up is pretty solid.
 

Merrith

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Yea, I guess 55 would be the minimum. Luke doesn't do anything too impressive compared to what you would expect from the Master of the Jedi Order in this series, the series after this one though there were a lot of cool moments. (Another 3 years or so into the future) It also makes him seem younger than pushing 60 with the badassery.
Jedi Grand Master...future medicine...I feel like 60 would be no obstacle for Luke being a badass still. Not to mention just his general power in the Force. While I found it strange he didn't really do a whole lot on his own in Legacy versus Fate of the Jedi series that came after it, they drop enough hints with the knowledge he shows at certain points that his level of mastery/power rivals some of the more powerful Jedi from the past.
 

Vlett

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Yea. At one point he said a Master shouldn't get involved in some things after a certain point of their mastery. Giving the example as to why Yoda didn't. (I'm being vague intentionally)
 

Gavinmad

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X wings came from Z-95 headhunters which came from ARC-170s (Ep3). A wings were created by General Jan Dodonna thinking that a faster fighter might have been useful during the trench run just after the Death Star was destroyed, they were based on the Delta-7 Jedi Starfigthers (Ep2) and V wings (Ep3). B wings I'm pretty sure was Admiral Ackbar making something new. You also have the whole Eta-2 (Ep3) to TIE Fighter to TIE Interceptor evolution too. Hyperdrives have gotten faster, during the Clone Wars they were Class 3, during the Rebellion they were Class 2 or 1.

Again...just for the movies and surrounding EU, the tech build up is pretty solid.
I'm not claiming the Star Wars universe is like 40K, where everything is stagnant or backsliding because they lack an understanding of the technology, but what people are describing here is advances in engineering expertise more than actual technological innovations. If you go back 4000 years to the Old Republic setting, blasters, lightsabers, capital ships, interceptors, they're all basically the same. The Republic was over 25000 years old when Palpatine took over, and for almost all of that time beyond the initial formation of the Republic, the tech level stayed about the same.
 

Vlett

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It seems most of the new technology that does get introduced is based or found from a very old artifact or lost tech. Like Centerpoint Station. This universe always focused on the lore and politics instead of the technology side of things. There are upgrades but those are usually mentioned in passing or Han bragging about the latest thing added or not working on his ship.