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So they can introduce cards at the new msrp that’s 25% more profit than the old ones.Why are they announcing new GPUs when you can't even buy their current ones. lord.
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So they can introduce cards at the new msrp that’s 25% more profit than the old ones.Why are they announcing new GPUs when you can't even buy their current ones. lord.
This is really bad logic.Why are they announcing new GPUs when you can't even buy their current ones. lord.
I always feel like they save up the chips that score higher than the, for example, 3080 but they arent good enough to be a 3090. With the idea that they can mass produce chips on the first iterations level and then after they reach a threshold for saved up stock - they release the "TI" versions. Course I could be looking at it all wrong - I have no experience with board manufacturing.This is really bad logic.
You can buy them. People are buying them. They've produced many more graphics cards than they have in any previous generation. Demand is just extremely high.
The fact that many people haven't gotten theirs yet does not change the fact that design, process and manufacturing improvements have happened over the course of shipping so many cards. To not use that data to design newer, better cards with intra-generational improvements and just keep filling infinite backorders for existing cards would be lazy.
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In stock. Price seems high?
If that was the case they would have jacked the MSRP way up. The "demand" is all artificial from scalpers buying up supply.Demand is just extremely high.
That’d be nice. Found $1,100 in PayPal after catching up on the other thread and may grab something against my protest of not paying above $699 for a Founders EditionEVGA drops today. Supposedly.
The scalper market is a lot smaller effect than people think. Somebody clearly wants those cards still or that market wouldn't exist and the fact that people are willing to pay so much OVER MSRP should indicate how massive demand is. You can only "inflate" demand so much, unless you're dealing with nearly unlimited capital. 1060 was the most popular card of all time. Because of that, TONS of people needed upgrades to their system, were stuck at home, and decided this was the generation. Then you have all the normies who needed a "work" PC all of a sudden with WFH becoming a thing, etc.$600 more than what I paid for my 3080ti =/.
If that was the case they would have jacked the MSRP way up. The "demand" is all artificial from scalpers buying up supply.
People still refuse to appreciate the lengths scalpers are going to in this economy to buy up stock.
Theres no way Nvidia or AMD would happily leave 100-200% profit on the table for scalpers to enjoy.The scalper market is a lot smaller effect than people think. Somebody clearly wants those cards still or that market wouldn't exist and the fact that people are willing to pay so much OVER MSRP should indicate how massive demand is. You can only "inflate" demand so much, unless you're dealing with nearly unlimited capital. 1060 was the most popular card of all time. Because of that, TONS of people needed upgrades to their system, were stuck at home, and decided this was the generation. Then you have all the normies who needed a "work" PC all of a sudden with WFH becoming a thing, etc.
It's not really Nvidia or AMD's fault. They're still selling first-party cards at MSRP, because they can, because if they're mostly assembled in Taiwan they don't have to pay tariffs.Theres no way Nvidia or AMD would happily leave 100-200% profit on the table for scalpers to enjoy.
Except AMD and nVidia don't have unlimited production capacity to make boards, chips, etc. They rely on board partners to fill in the gaps.Theres no way Nvidia or AMD would happily leave 100-200% profit on the table for scalpers to enjoy.
This exact same situation has been going on in the sneaker world for almost a decade now.
The sneaker world is fucked intentionally though. Limited edition by design.Theres no way Nvidia or AMD would happily leave 100-200% profit on the table for scalpers to enjoy.
This exact same situation has been going on in the sneaker world for almost a decade now.
This is really bad logic.
You can buy them. People are buying them. They've produced many more graphics cards than they have in any previous generation. Demand is just extremely high.
The fact that many people haven't gotten theirs yet does not change the fact that design, process and manufacturing improvements have happened over the course of shipping so many cards. To not use that data to design newer, better cards with intra-generational improvements and just keep filling infinite backorders for existing cards would be lazy.
Again, that's stupid logic. It would be stupid and lazy to not make a better product when you have the technology to do so.It seems really silly to just say "Well okay, onto the next product" when they can't even meet demand of the previous at anytime during its lifespan.
Again, that's stupid logic. It would be stupid and lazy to not make a better product when you have the technology to do so.
Manufacturing capacity is limited, silicon ingots are limited, why would you devote both to making what is now inferior product just because not everyone that could possibly want that product has gotten it yet?
It's also a staffing/experience problem.Again, that's stupid logic. It would be stupid and lazy to not make a better product when you have the technology to do so.
Manufacturing capacity is limited, silicon ingots are limited, why would you devote both to making what is now inferior product just because not everyone that could possibly want that product has gotten it yet?
I’m not sure why nvidia would or should give a shit about that. Do you think it’s a good idea as a company (and for investors) to say “you know what R&D department, engineers, etc. we should just have you guys not work for a while, there are some customers that just haven’t been able to get the last product you made gosh darn it. We’re just going to stop innovating for a while and lay you guys off until Joe Blow the neighbor is able to get one of the old products for little Timmy for Christmas.”It's not an issue of "because not everyone that could possibly want that product has gotten it" and more of an issue of "because the product has never been accessible to the general public". I'm sure there are people that since release have been trying to get a 3090. However, because they didn't write their own bot, pay a scalper, or get lucky in the 10-15 second window of it being available online and the shopping cart not breaking because 800,000 people across the world are attempting to buy it at the exact same moment while bots are also slamming the page -- their odds of getting one are zero.