Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

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Jarek

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Oh shit Convo spotted in the live stream. I can't believe we managed to get one of our own on the inside. We're waiting for our top secret back door access codes man, come on!
 
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Dullahan

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Games like EQ do not rely on gameplay to engage the player, but player interactions during the gameplay. Most MMOs since have been straying away from this formula, basically making everything solo, including grouping and even raiding. (Grup finder, raid finder.)

You ask anyone why they play, for instance, progression EQ servers every year, and most will tell you that its because of the player interactions and the drama it causes that makes the game fun.
I disagree. The gameplay itself in EQ was addictive. That it was a shared experience was great, yes, but the slower strategic combat and high risk vs reward item progression made it a every addictive experience aside from the social aspect.
 
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Zaide

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I don't think they've worked on animations at all really outside of concept art.

I'm pretty sure the main focus for a while has been core mechanics, i.e. combat, movement, casting, class balance, enemy a.i., mob abilities, tradeskills etc.
 
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gLobal

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One of the things I appreciate after a stream are the summaries that come out shortly after.

This has most of the good information with links to relevant spots in the stream. I wanted to watch it, but it looks like the same 2 zones they've already shown like 4 times now.

Pantheon Stream Summary (March 18th, 2018)

I mean it's nice to see the progression, but we want to see different shit! How about a group full of evil races in a zone we haven't seen??
 

Nullify

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Animations are definitely a bit stiff but I imagine those will be getting attention later, and if not that's pretty far down my list of concerns. I did think the spell effects and general atmosphere looked a hell of a lot better than the earlier streams.

Visuals aside, listening to Joppa and Brad talk about game mechanics and general design philosophy throughout the last few streams, it's clear their head is in the right place with respect to the foundation of the game and it being something I want to play. However, it would be nice to hear more about what they're doing that's innovative, and not just a polished up, modernized EQ. Vanguard, for all of its technical faults, had some interesting and novel ideas with the crafting & diplomacy spheres as well as unique class design. Stuff like the disposition system is a good start, I'm interested to see what their plans are for crafting & tradeskills.
 
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Zaide

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One of the things I appreciate after a stream are the summaries that come out shortly after.

This has most of the good information with links to relevant spots in the stream. I wanted to watch it, but it looks like the same 2 zones they've already shown like 4 times now.

Pantheon Stream Summary (March 18th, 2018)

I mean it's nice to see the progression, but we want to see different shit! How about a group full of evil races in a zone we haven't seen??

Those roundups are actually done by a guild member of ours Nick/Nickyhots, he's an old Conquest member. I know he lurks here but I don't think he posts.
 

Ravishing

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Game is starting to look good.
Animations can be smoother and hopefully more fleshed out to add more "character" and life.
I wouldn't say it's relateable to Luclin at all... Luclin problem were the base models were horrible and then stiff animations on top. Pantheon's models are actually looking pretty good.

I was not a fan of the environment though. I hate the super-dark dungeons. I would like to see things brightened up. Less brown. Even the darkest dungeons can be vibrant. But the stream from front to back all took place in a brown dungeon. Give me some shafts of light, floating motes, incandescent bugs/rocks. There were some gemstones but they don't add anything. They have no emissive property, don't give off any light, which could glitter/reflect off walls. All of the walls/floors are a brown stone... Add some reds/yellows/oranges. Only way I can get attracted to an MMO is if the environments are attractive enough to hold my attention. I need visual stimuli. I want to round a bend with anticipation of seeing something interesting. Not just more brown walls.

Maybe the Dungeon is just meant to be a small quick thing and isn't a key area... if so, it's a poor choice to have your stream and show off your game.

Combat pacing also maybe too slow. Not sure how I feel about EQ era combat again tbh. Slower pace is good for a social game though.
 
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Muligan

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Those roundups are actually done by a guild member of ours Nick/Nickyhots, he's an old Conquest member. I know he lurks here but I don't think he posts.

Conquest? From Lanys? I keep seeing people from my old guild pop up. Those guys were good people. Too bad the only thing people remember about us is the Sleeper incident. lol. What is the guild on Pantheon? Are you running as Faceless in Pre-Alpha? Also, is everything pretty well common mobs and some named? Have they mentioned how many, if any raid encounters they will be testing in the near future?
 

Zaide

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Conquest? From Lanys? I keep seeing people from my old guild pop up. Those guys were good people. Too bad the only thing people remember about us is the Sleeper incident. lol. What is the guild on Pantheon? Are you running as Faceless in Pre-Alpha? Also, is everything pretty well common mobs and some named? Have they mentioned how many, if any raid encounters they will be testing in the near future?

He's a member of Faceless now yeah and we will do a guild for Pantheon on launch for sure. I don't know anything about Pre-Alpha. Some of the devs have accounts here though, they might answer you if you're lucky!

Also, our boy Zavy is a Conquest veteran as well, you should hit him up!
 
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ZyyzYzzy

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Conquest? From Lanys? I keep seeing people from my old guild pop up. Those guys were good people. Too bad the only thing people remember about us is the Sleeper incident. lol. What is the guild on Pantheon? Are you running as Faceless in Pre-Alpha? Also, is everything pretty well common mobs and some named? Have they mentioned how many, if any raid encounters they will be testing in the near future?
I was shit tier on lanys...rota :(
 

Muligan

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He's a member of Faceless now yeah and we will do a guild for Pantheon on launch for sure. I don't know anything about Pre-Alpha. Some of the devs have accounts here though, they might answer you if you're lucky!

Also, our boy Zavy is a Conquest veteran as well, you should hit him up!

Nice, thanks. Yeah, Zavy and I talk quite often. We ran into another mutual friend, Ashland, the other day on Agnarr. Small world. Would like to see the devs post a bit more but we all know how that goes.

ZyyzYzzy ZyyzYzzy lol.. there was some good folks in ROTA too. Lanys had all kinds of good folks.
 
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WorryPlaysGames

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Sounds like it’s the same exact location :

Will you be there to see if @JimLee survives Halnir Cave in @PantheonMMO? Watch his stream live Mar. 20 8 pm PDT to find out! Twitch #PRF #MMORPG #MMO #communitymatters
 
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Hekotat

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I offered cheeseburgers and to suck dick, if yall get invited before me I'm going to hire Brianna Wu to strip at your next birthday party!
 
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Jalynfane

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I have seen screenies and it looks good, not had the time to watch any gameplay yet. I have to temper the counter-hype here on most games with hype in the mortal realm and come up with something hybrid.