The only things you'll be playing in the nursing homes are 'Hide your valuables' ,'When are they going to feed me?' and 'Oops I shat myself' (This one some of you have already been playing along with MMO's)
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Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO
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Guest, it's time once again for the massively important and exciting FoH Asshat Tournament!
Go here and give us your nominations!Who's been the biggest Asshat in the last year? Give us your worst ones!
Synj
Dystopian Dreamer
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Early UO/EQ days were a golden age where I had ample free time, not a ton of responsibility and an established relationship. I could never find that kind of time again between work, kids, wife, friends, activities. Nor do I think I would prioritize EQ the same way. At the time I was broke. EQ was a great bargain of entertainment hours/dollar. Now that I have actual expendable income, I'd prefer traveling and concerts and sporting events and things like that. Back in the day it was easy to turn down shit I couldn't afford and I was hanging out with buddies online anyway.
In many ways I do miss it, in many more I don't. But I agree 100% with you, small easily consumed segments with the occasional late night weekend is more my speed. Staying up until 2am on a work night is not in the cards anymore and I'd rather chill with my kids than spend all day on the computer camping loot.
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Ambiturner
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That shit would get me with the "ok just a few more minutes" game that eventually turns into 5 hours. Then with original EQ you get a lot of "I'm tired and kinda bored, but fuck I just got into a really good group and I really should milk this as much as I can" and times where you can barely stay awake, but don't want to kill off the group/piss people off by logging without a replacement.
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Regime
LOADING, PLEASE WAIT...
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/tell Synj We gotta make it to this place called East Commonlands. They sell magnificent items at some tunnel there. Stock up and meet me outside Qeynos Hills in West Karana. That’s the place we killed those lions earlier.
It’s a perilous journey but one you soon won’t forget.
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Fifey
Trakanon Raider
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Screw you buddy. As a West coaster, we started assembling at 5 and I got off work at 5 and had a 20ish minute drive home so it was always a race home to instantly log in without food or a shower.
Erronius
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Most of my guild were Euro players. For most of my time in EQ, I was living in California. My day was their night. I was pretty much playing 12 to 14 hours a day. I had no job, was young and dumb, and just burned through all the money I made from working through college. Best time of my life.
Lambourne
Ahn'Qiraj Raider
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Everyone's different, if you can stick to just a few hours without it spiraling into entire weekends you're probably fine. Having a stable relationship that drags you away from the computer regularly probably helps too.
Yea, I agree with all of that. I purposely avoided joining a guild in recent years because I never want that level of time commitment to a game again. It also makes it much easier to quit.
However, WoW has made time commitment more and more inherent in the design in the last few expansions. Log in every day (or every few hours) to do your dailies, WQ, emissary, daily dungeon, PVP brawl... the game's basically set up to get you to log in regularly and drip feed you small rewards. It's much like youtube popping up a bunch of new "related" videos after each one or social media providing you with endless new things to look at. It's designed to suck up all your time.
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iannis
Musty Nester
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Way worse than vegas. There's no payout if you win.
Considering that if you don't pledge, and the game releases, you'll still be able to buy it.
At least people have stopped thinking of kickstarter as an investment opportunity. I'm fine with thinking of it as a charity even if that's not quite right. That's probably how you should think of it as a donator. It is not how they should MARKET it, for profit != giving to the local homeless shelter in any moral sense, obviously. Anyone taking the money trying to make that argument needs to be severely beaten with the shit stick. But in the way of "I had money a minute ago, and now I don't, and maybe that guy I gave it to can use it" then yeah. Sure. I can see that.
Kickstarter is the worst thing to ever happen to the video game industry. Now rich guys can get even richer without even having to put up any capital. They don't have to invest anything into the game whatsoever because gamers will pay to make the game for them, and if it bombs, or never comes out (hello Star Citizen) they still make out.
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iannis
Musty Nester
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Some good things have come out of kickstarter too. I can't think of one offhand, but I know they exist.
was Minecraft kickstarted? Maybe not. That pillars of eternity game was though. The game has its problems and is solidly meh, but it released and wasn't a scam.
devs can just scam you directly now instead of having to scam a publisher. Honestly, I'd call that a good thing. It ain't perfect though.
was Minecraft kickstarted? Maybe not. That pillars of eternity game was though. The game has its problems and is solidly meh, but it released and wasn't a scam.
devs can just scam you directly now instead of having to scam a publisher. Honestly, I'd call that a good thing. It ain't perfect though.
rinthea
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Kick starter just increases the chances the business is a scam. There is still a chance it isn't. And there are legit businesses that wouldn't' exist without it. The problem is deciphering which is which.
The problem I have with Kick-starter is that the investment alternatives are illegal. It's ok to donate money to a kick starter. But it's not ok to invest micro amounts into a product in a similar device. If I could have a claim on future earnings of 'kickstarter xyz' for $50 I'd be more inclined give money to it, or invest in it. Something like Uber that says, ' fuck you,' to existing laws and brute forces its way in, but for micro investing. Perhaps it exists, I don't know.
It's pretty obvious to me that Pantheon is going to be a phenomenal success. The market is crying out for a MMO that isn't outright horrendous. And there's no alternatives, the only issue they have is getting it out in a reasonable time. I'm boggled that one of the better funded & smarter publishers haven't thrown some money at them to make it happen.
The problem I have with Kick-starter is that the investment alternatives are illegal. It's ok to donate money to a kick starter. But it's not ok to invest micro amounts into a product in a similar device. If I could have a claim on future earnings of 'kickstarter xyz' for $50 I'd be more inclined give money to it, or invest in it. Something like Uber that says, ' fuck you,' to existing laws and brute forces its way in, but for micro investing. Perhaps it exists, I don't know.
It's pretty obvious to me that Pantheon is going to be a phenomenal success. The market is crying out for a MMO that isn't outright horrendous. And there's no alternatives, the only issue they have is getting it out in a reasonable time. I'm boggled that one of the better funded & smarter publishers haven't thrown some money at them to make it happen.
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Sevens
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You can take this for what its worth but...the CEO of VRI has stated that the game is in a good place funding wise atm and they will not accept any funding from Gaming studios or publishers so that they can make the game they want to make and not be forced into concessions on "The Vision"
Ukerric
Bearded Ape
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Nope. Minecraft was a guy goofing about voxels in java and showing youtubes about his code, then asking for money for his codebase because it was becoming a full-time job.
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Arden
Blackwing Lair Raider
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I've been happy with the things I've backed on Kickstarter, but I haven't backed many. The Shadowrun Returns games are the most recent thing I can think of that I backed. Kickstarter is like any other platform you use to spend your money-- it's caveat emptor. Do research, use common sense, and don't get caught up in the hype.
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