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Normally I would agree but everyone is so fucking desperate for anything they will play this pile of poo.
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Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO
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Normally I would agree but everyone is so fucking desperate for anything they will play this pile of poo.
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Hateyou
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I see the Anti-Fa section of the insane liberal media took "learn 2 code" way too seriously.
zzeris
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It almost blows my mind that about 2000 retards subscribe to this guy's LARP. Cutting edge investigation, indeed. Relevant video of Pantheon supporters at release...
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Muligan
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You're not wrong... I probably will too.. but it's going to be agonizing in the mean time and they're doing it to themselves and their player base
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I'm ready to invest my time into another MMO, but the way this is going, it's probably 2 years away from releasing, which makes it almost impossible to be excited. I mean, this thread about the game started what, 4 or 5 years ago?
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dizzie
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I don't see this releasing in 2 years. Even when it's actually in alpha there's going to be metric fucktons of bugs and stuff to iron out - there's going to have to be weeks of internal testing before they do anything public.
If it releases in 2 years it will be an utter mess. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if this took another 4-5 years.
How have they got enough money to keep this ship afloat?
If it releases in 2 years it will be an utter mess. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if this took another 4-5 years.
How have they got enough money to keep this ship afloat?
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Adinirahc
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Totally agree. When I watched the early streams of the game, I got the impression they weren't really trying to reinvent the wheel here. I think if they would have stuck to what they already knew worked with EQ and just ported most of that into a new world, with new lore and updated graphics, they had a chance at making this game on a shoestring budget. As soon as they started talking about all these new "innovative" ideas they wanted to implement to "push the genre forward", it started going off the rails IMO. They don't have the bankroll for that.
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Apprentice Developer subscriptions, people are stupid as shit and will stay signed up to something for decades even if it provides no benefit to them. As an example American Inventors still be subbed up to AOL.
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Jarek
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I just spent way too much time reading up on this thread, but I saw someone mention something (which I’m not gonna go back to find and quote sorry) that is really accurate: At some point Pantheon jumped the shark in terms of design direction.
I’m thinking the pay-to-post suggestions forum may be the problem, with the devs having to take all those hair brained ideas and implement them because the “backers” pay them. Or, maybe it’s just a shitty, young adult author level of writing talent on the actual team. I can only speculate, but the weird “gnome” design, the over the top “environmental hazards” system, the O’ver’use o’f A’pos’tro’phe in naming things... it all smells like a sophomoric amateur’s conception of “New and innovative Fantasy setting!!!”
Getting sidetracked by “unique” design decisions isn’t practical in terms of development time/resources, and having lore, races, and setting be odd and different “just because” isn’t very appealing. Go with what you know works, then add on top of that, instead of derailing development with “unique and innovative “ (unnecessary) distractions.
I think I’ve heard the Pantheon people say they don’t just want to make a reskinned EQ or Vanguard, but that would honestly be the best place to start in my opinion.
I’m thinking the pay-to-post suggestions forum may be the problem, with the devs having to take all those hair brained ideas and implement them because the “backers” pay them. Or, maybe it’s just a shitty, young adult author level of writing talent on the actual team. I can only speculate, but the weird “gnome” design, the over the top “environmental hazards” system, the O’ver’use o’f A’pos’tro’phe in naming things... it all smells like a sophomoric amateur’s conception of “New and innovative Fantasy setting!!!”
Getting sidetracked by “unique” design decisions isn’t practical in terms of development time/resources, and having lore, races, and setting be odd and different “just because” isn’t very appealing. Go with what you know works, then add on top of that, instead of derailing development with “unique and innovative “ (unnecessary) distractions.
I think I’ve heard the Pantheon people say they don’t just want to make a reskinned EQ or Vanguard, but that would honestly be the best place to start in my opinion.
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Arden
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That's what most people on this board want. Hard to ask a designer not to try new things and implement their own ideas though. I'm sure the impulse is to use EQ/VG as a base and build on it. The crowd-sourced design thing was a TERRIBLE idea from the start, like a lot of us mentioned when they first came up with it. A bunch of random people from the general public with random ideas sounds like a recipe for disaster. The best thing Verant did back in the old days was ignore 95% of what the fan base said. Seriously. Back in 99 and early 2000, you couldn't really even get in touch with anyone outside of the game, and they certainly weren't taking suggestions from the crowd. VI unapologetically did what they thought they needed to do and made the game they wanted to play, and it worked. Some of that spirit was still alive in the guys I worked with at Sigil who had been there for the early EQ days.
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Jozu
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Asherons Call did a fantastic job of keeping fheir fans engaged in a meaningful way. Official forums and feedback from monthly events were some of the ways we could voice our opinions about certain gameplay elements/changes.
Its not like they took anyones direct advice, but they would move the needle if their was an overwhelming consensus. For instance, very early on there was a huge problem for melee based characters in terms of pvp against mages or archers. If your opponent simply just kited you, you could never land an attack.
Hence the arrival of "sticky melee". The devs came up with a pretty solid solution, which was to simply make the melee attacker "stick" to their target after a succesful initial attack.
You wouldnt just stick to someone like glue though, you would be able to land maybe 4 to 6 speed strikes before your opponent would disengage if their run speed was higher. Melee defense was also a factor, but either way it was a great example of the community having a positive effect on the game.
Its not like they took anyones direct advice, but they would move the needle if their was an overwhelming consensus. For instance, very early on there was a huge problem for melee based characters in terms of pvp against mages or archers. If your opponent simply just kited you, you could never land an attack.
Hence the arrival of "sticky melee". The devs came up with a pretty solid solution, which was to simply make the melee attacker "stick" to their target after a succesful initial attack.
You wouldnt just stick to someone like glue though, you would be able to land maybe 4 to 6 speed strikes before your opponent would disengage if their run speed was higher. Melee defense was also a factor, but either way it was a great example of the community having a positive effect on the game.
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dizzie
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So they want to make:
Day night cycles
Dynamic events
Atmosphere system
Extreme climates system
Perceptions
NPC dispositions
Crafting/harvesting
Climbable surfaces
Intractable objects
Significant boss encounters
AND MORE....
Fucking hell, this games not coming out till 2035..
Day night cycles
Dynamic events
Atmosphere system
Extreme climates system
Perceptions
NPC dispositions
Crafting/harvesting
Climbable surfaces
Intractable objects
Significant boss encounters
AND MORE....
Fucking hell, this games not coming out till 2035..
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Vaporware - Wikipedia
You guys are dopey as fuck. What exactly will it take for you morons to realize this is just another scam and the best you can hope for if it ever does see the light of day is a boxed turd.
They haven't learned shit since 2013. Look at the Kickstarter again, and accept it.
You guys are dopey as fuck. What exactly will it take for you morons to realize this is just another scam and the best you can hope for if it ever does see the light of day is a boxed turd.
They haven't learned shit since 2013. Look at the Kickstarter again, and accept it.
In September 2013, Brad McQuaid let itslip on Twitterthat he's gone from SOE and on to a new project. He made the vague reference that it relates to previous tweets about a niche MMO with a smaller budget not geared toward the mainstream. The project was eventually announced as Kickstarter-bound and Brad had assembled a new team. Legends say a ninja warrior caught wind that the game was to be called Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen.
Pantheon is set to launch on Kickstarter sometime in January of 2014.
1/13/14:Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen by Visionary Realms, Inc. Kickstarter
Work in progress on the OP, will be updating with more information.
Bigdogchris compiled list of requested features
Brad Quotes
Brad looks at the past and the road ahead
On feature creep:
On Pantheon's scope and developing a world the size of Norrath
Modern concepts being tested, but not forced in
Pantheon drops the dots
PVP is a stretch goal so insert all your tokens, BigFlex
Players within a class can differentiate themselves, but your class is your class
Much to tad's delight, OT/DT is in Pantheon
Feedback will be based around the people Pantheon is aiming for
On flagging
The team on Twitter
Brad McQuaid
Corey LeFever
Jason Weimann-- But seriously, do something with that Twitter that isn't ad related.
Ben de la Durantaye
Tony Garcia
Noel Walling
Pantheon Twitter account
The concept art
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