Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

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Dahkoht_sl

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I'll duck away from blasting the KS itself and shift to the KS forums at least for a minute. The lack of reality they live in still is in full swing. (with some decent exceptions). Some are praising the human update and think it will draw in more backers.

Really ?
 
mkopec

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Dahkoht_sl said:
Some are praising the human update and think it will draw in more backers.

Really ?
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They are coming in droves!

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Bilbo Faggins_sl said:
It's gotten to the point where no matter what they do, people on this thread are going to bash it. This is getting rediculous guys. Not everything is going perfectly, but y'all are over reacting to every little thing they Brad and company says or does.

Do they have a game to show? No. You've bitched about it. Noted. Get over it.
Do they have race sketches? No. You've bitched. Noted. Get over it.
Do they have a design doc fleshed out? No. You've bitched. Noted. Get over it.

Everything being bitched about for the past week on here has already been bitched about to full extent that it needs to be bitched about. Try something new.

Be constructive about what they actually HAVE. We know what they don't have. If you can't get passed what they don't have by this point then it's time to realize this isn't the game or thread for you. Move along.
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How can you be constructive if what's not there. Take for example the class descriptions. How can you be constructive over basically two paragraphs? All that's going on is ideas being thrown out there. Even these ideas are not going into a whole lot of detail. Your lucky we are even here to give a shit, most people probably have dismissed this outright judging by how this is limping with barely 2K backers .
 
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Dahkoht_sl

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Curious ,what kind of voting load does it take to get something front page on Reddit ? I've got no idea of the numbers on that type of thing.
 
DickTrickle

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Bilbo Faggins_sl said:
It's gotten to the point where no matter what they do, people on this thread are going to bash it. This is getting rediculous guys. Not everything is going perfectly, but y'all are over reacting to every little thing they Brad and company says or does.

Do they have a game to show? No. You've bitched about it. Noted. Get over it.
Do they have race sketches? No. You've bitched. Noted. Get over it.
Do they have a design doc fleshed out? No. You've bitched. Noted. Get over it.

Everything being bitched about for the past week on here has already been bitched about to full extent that it needs to be bitched about. Try something new.

Be constructive about what they actually HAVE. We know what they don't have. If you can't get passed what they don't have by this point then it's time to realize this isn't the game or thread for you. Move along.
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And there's plenty of people just like you (though less now). Suck it up.
 
Bruman

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Bilbo, a discussion thread is for all people interested in a project. Obviously, a TON of us on this forum are interested in this project.

If people followed your advice, you'd just have nothing but a circle-jerk of smiles and "OH GEE I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS DIDN'T FUND" at the end. That's no better than a hate-circle-jerk, just the other end of the spectrum of suck.

Now, there's a point to be made about keeping it constructive, but as new things happen, everyone is welcome to comment on it. It's not like we're bitching about the same singular instance of Some Thing That Happened A Month Ago over and over.
 
popsicledeath

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Okay, I'll try to keep things constructive.

Hey, did you guys see they'll have ogres! They look.... well, ummm. The details... oh, but, ummm... the concept art.... I mean, it seems they'll...no, ummm.... Hey guys, they'll have ogres!!!
 
zzeris

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Brad should have found some cheap, younger artists to make some concept art early in the process. As Quaid mentioned, there are a ton of young artists who would love an opportunity to have their name associated with anything in the public eye. Tons of concept art would have already probably doubled the funding at this point. If nothing else, it would have at least added to the public's imagination. Instead, we get to know what humans are...
 
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popsicledeath_sl said:
Okay, I'll try to keep things constructive.

Hey, did you guys see they'll have ogres! They look.... well, ummm. The details... oh, but, ummm... the concept art.... I mean, it seems they'll...no, ummm.... Hey guys, they'll have ogres!!!
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Working hard since he left SOE to come up with that. The sad part is i think even with all this shit there is still a chance of a good game here. Just seems like the last thing i thought would happen was lacking planning and effort considering the past and that this is kick-starter.
 
Convo

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Bilbo- it frustrates me to no end how negative things can get but let's be honest.. The team is making it easy for things to go in that direction.

I am curious why some people who have made up their mind this ain't happening are still posting tho. I don't have that kind of determination lol.
 
zzeris

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Convo,

I hate to say it but once the EQNL alpha hits, I probably won't be posting here and will just check in on day 39 to see if miracles can happen here. Everything has been mentioned at least 100 times(by Booze alone), and this thread got pretty boring and lackluster much like the KS TBH. Meet you in EQNL!
 
popsicledeath

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I try to be positive. I thought the dungeon building live-stream was kinda cool, until, once again, they proved they have no foresight or ability to be relevant with even their messages about the very game they're literally working on in that moment. The talking points were worse than shit. The dungeon building was neat, but unfocused. And then, if I recall, somebody who listened to more of the stream said Vu admitted he's not even planning to use that as a part of the game, just to practice, which is fine, but don't fucking tell people that. And yeah, even while working on what could be game assets he seemed utterly bored at the idea.

Meanwhile, they could have 'hired' 5 interns and probably had a working demo by now, tons of great concept art, some rough in-game screenshots that weren't laughable, a successful media blitz, and a KS page that wasn't embarrassing and a failure on just about every level.
 
Quaid

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zzeris_sl said:
Convo,

I hate to say it but once the EQNL alpha hits, I probably won't be posting here and will just check in on day 39 to see if miracles can happen here. Everything has been mentioned at least 100 times(by Booze alone), and this thread got pretty boring and lackluster much like the KS TBH. Meet you in EQNL!
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We'll know how this is going after the AMA and Boogie interview are done. Thursday-Friday will make or break this campaign.

On the positive side, 2k+ backers now
 
Muligan

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Is it rude to say that Scott is posting in the Archeage post today so who cares until we see how AMA and Boogie impact this project? haha

Also, can I say i'm disappointed with the Human release that we still do not get concept art?
 
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Quaid_sl said:
We'll know how this is going after the AMA and Boogie interview are done. Thursday-Friday will make or break this campaign.

On the positive side, 2k+ backers now
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Yup. Those two things and I think we'll know. Unless a secret 'angle' investor shows up, be it Brad or SOE to save the day.... but then, in that case, I'm not completely sure I want to be a part of the project.
 
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popsicledeath_sl said:
Okay, I'll try to keep things constructive.

Hey, did you guys see they'll have ogres! They look.... well, ummm. The details... oh, but, ummm... the concept art.... I mean, it seems they'll...no, ummm.... Hey guys, they'll have ogres!!!
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You bring up a good point because it is through concept art that people start building their attachment to a given race. They can latch onto a concept then visualize how it might turn out. Without concept art we're left with having to think of our own ideas which we then become attached to and when the actual design is release we're more likely to dislike it because it does not conform to our own concept.

Their description has my mind stuck on something like this:
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In this case anything would be better but I just can't get that idea out of my head.
 
Nemesis

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Quaid_sl said:
Is that really necessary?... There's a lot we can pick on him professionally for without bringing it down to personal attacks...
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if that was directed at me, then my response is that it wasn't a personal attack at all!

I just find it funny when people's publicly presented image is that of a decade earlier, and doesn't match who they are today.

As far as the drugs and fail and fat, it was a sloppy joke, and certainly not the first reference made to any of those in the last 350+ pages.

I've contributed substantially to the KS project, I've followed along with optimism and objectivity (and often with plenty snark) throughout the ebb and flow of our collective faith in it, and I really hope he is able to pull this off for all of our sake - the fans and his alike.

I'm sure he appreciates you white knighting for him, though. Very sweet of you.

I think you have something on your chin.
 
Convo

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It's interesting... The whole EQL thing. I hope it's not possible but if for some crazy reason EQL doesn't pan out.. The focus might really turn to pantheon. Again..unlikely.
 
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