Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

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Aeiouy_sl

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Convo_sl said:
Great point.. I hope so, because you just cant say shit like that and not expect people to want to see it. That kind of stuff will lose people in a hurry. Thanks for trying to move this thread along.
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People way blowing this up. It is simply a sign they are able to get up to speed and work on stuff , because if the engine, that previously would have taken months and months more work before they could even mess around. It sure as fuck does not mean they have a playable demo to show people.

I am sure if you search youtube you can find all sorts of combat demos using unity.

The same people bitching about default art assets and slash are now demanding that they lost up the roughest of workshop videos.

I am not sure which twenty percent of the time to take you guys seriously.
 
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Convo_sl said:
I'd rather see it but you have to remember we are a different bunch. So many people knocking the early dungeon videos. They really can't win either way. People are dumb enough to think what they show is how it will look on release. No matter what disclaimer they use.. But.. I agree, I'd rather see it
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I agree with you and in normal situation , as in they had provided early real screenshots and artwork renderings , I'd say keep the really rough stuff hidden.

But currently the #1 knock against this by people who would be willing to donate is lack of anything concrete. Anyone I've shown the site to who is actually mildly interested immediately has asked me where's anything showing anything about the actual game ?

I just think the positives would outweigh the negatives in their current situation.

It's pretty much no huddle , go for it on 4th every time time right now, approaching hail mary status. The totals aren't getting any better and it's not an exaggeration they will be looking close to half the whole KS at the end if things don't improve.

I want the game , I want to be in the early testing and dev guild as think it will be genuinely interesting. And on a side note I don't want it to fail and folks point incorrectly at it as evidence that no one wants this type of game. I stand by thinking you cannot just how a disorganized KS fares as evidence of whether there's a market for the product or not.
 
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Irongut_sl said:
They have a class called "Dark Knight".



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Yes, such a terrible shitty idea... lol
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Given the specifics in this case it is beyond a shitty idea. Anyone even entertaining it as a slightly plausible idea needs a labotomoy.

I agree this really has no place here as it is literally the dumbest discussion in a thread full of dumb discussions.
 
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Aeiouy_sl said:
People way blowing this up. It is simply a sign they are able to get up to speed and work on stuff , because if the engine, that previously would have taken months and months more work before they could even mess around. It sure as fuck does not mean they have a playable demo to show people.

I am sure if you search youtube you can find all sorts of combat demos using unity.

The same people bitching about default art assets and slash are now demanding that they lost up the roughest of workshop videos.

I am not sure which twenty percent of the time to take you guys seriously.
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Yeah, probably right , those human and rogue updates are doing fucking wonders for that KS total.

And using the SLASH picture was a moronic decision that deserves the shit it gets.
 
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Aeiouy_sl said:
People way blowing this up. It is simply a sign they are able to get up to speed and work on stuff , because if the engine, that previously would have taken months and months more work before they could even mess around. It sure as fuck does not mean they have a playable demo to show people.

I am sure if you search youtube you can find all sorts of combat demos using unity.

The same people bitching about default art assets and slash are now demanding that they lost up the roughest of workshop videos.

I am not sure which twenty percent of the time to take you guys seriously.
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you must of missed my other post on this but you also have to understand, a large portion of players are not donating because they don't think this game is far enough along. It's a damned if they do and damned if they don't situation. Personally, I'd rather see what they have. I am also of reasonable mind, so I'm not expecting some amazing game with top notch art and animations. Some people will draw their own conclusions no matter what disclaimer is attached to an in game video.. Also.. it has been done in other Kickstarters, don't make it sound like it's some crazy notion. It's not.
 
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Arctic_Slicer_sl said:
All inclusive weapon proc rate listing - The Arena

Also looking over your parses it looks like some of your tests were very close to 1.5/.75 numbers. What you see in the higher numbers is probably RNG variance because procs are very random and can sometimes proc many times in a short duration or not at all for several minutes. The longer the test the more it trends to 1.5/.75.
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That link does not support your claim of 1.5ppm at 255 dex. It claims 1.5ppm at 205 dex. Either you misread, or you are making the apparent assumption that you gain zero benefit from dex from 205 to 255 dex, then at some point it reaches 2ppm at 305. If you assume a linear function, your own link's numbers would produce a 1.75ppm mainhand, .875ppm offhand at 255 dex.

The post you quoted has no data nor links to any and wasn't even a thread about parsing proc rates. The guy even says in the thread'As far as I can tell proc rates do scale linearly, but that is a guess since I don't have nearly enough data points.'

Otherthreadsclaim that proc rates stopped increasing after 255 dex. This makes sense since 255 dex was the cap for years and the proc formula was obviously thought up before the game even launched, years before PoP. From your own link on the first page, a guy parsed a primal weapon dead on at 2ppm with 285 dex in a 2 hour, 20 minute parse. If it were a linear function with 255 dex being 1.5ppm and 305 dex being 2ppm, then the expected proc rate at 285 dex would be 1.8ppm. (or 1.9ppm if 205 dex = 1.5ppm)

'some of my parses were very close to 1.5' is extreme cherry picking. I listed just as many well over 2. Those were real fights, pre-PoP, with brief periods of sub 255 dex, and not on NPCs that don't fight back. Even my Vulak parse with no shaman buff plus res effects and no avatar on for half of it (res effects prevented avatar from landing, which made my stated offhand proc rate lower than it was) STILL had a SoD mainhand rate well over 1.5, at 1.7ppm. Before I died it was 2.2ppm.
 
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Anyone wonder about the Pet class? I cant decide if it will be something radically new or a necro/mage..

And they are working on combat right now. Not sure if that plays into a demo or they just want to talk more about it..
 
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Torrid_sl said:
off topic nerdgasm
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It'll kinda have to be a sub-class of wizard or shaman. So, necro, or my guess is probably a shaman pet class? I know, totally revolutionary shit there. But if an EQ shaman and WoW hunter had a kid, though, I'd play that class. Shaman when it comes to casting stuff, Hunter when it comes to pet stuff.
 
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Aeiouy_sl said:
Given the specifics in this case it is beyond a shitty idea. Anyone even entertaining it as a slightly plausible idea needs a labotomoy.

I agree this really has no place here as it is literally the dumbest discussion in a thread full of dumb discussions.
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Thanks cupcake.
 
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Yea I haven't been able to check off "game developer" on my check list of guys I've done.
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lol. gross.

also, my guess is that enchanter was the pet class. the especially vocal necro fans, and to a lesser extent magician fans, prepare to be disappointed.
 
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I appreciate the effort folks have put in over at pajamapantheon.com, but it's basically the official forum at this point, with the same level of retardation. Typical post is a really long rebuttal of any coherent argument that doesn't say 'IT BETTER BE JUST LIKE EQ' and then they sum up their rebuttal by basically re-stating the very point you were making that they thought they were rebutting.

At least you fuckers know how to really read something and try to comprehend it so you can find the most absurd argument to refute a point. /heart
 
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Convo_sl said:
I'd rather see it but you have to remember we are a different bunch. So many people knocking the early dungeon videos. They really can't win either way. People are dumb enough to think what they show is how it will look on release. No matter what disclaimer they use.. But.. I agree, I'd rather see it
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Torrid, either way we are arguing over a fraction of a proc; I know I've seen threads which had much more thorough data and testing than the I one I linked; however those threads seem to have been lost to time. Case in point; the second post in that thread references a post made on the forums of the long ago defunct shadowknight.org.
 
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Kirun_sl said:
She also wants a "cyber Brad" tier. What a classy broad. It's no mystery why these two have five shitspawn that they can't care for.
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Calling someone elses children "shitspawn"=classy dude. Get back in your moms basement and continue jerking off to porn. She will have your mac&cheese ready soon.

P.S. She never said shit about "cybering" with Brad you fag. Cyber is what losers like you do because its the best you can get.
 
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