Draegan_sl
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Lfr or lfd is the equivalent of solo farming odd and end drops. No one considers it actual character progression.
There isn't any. If EQ had had had a group finder most of the people who rail against it would've welcomed it as much as the rest of us. I got lucky with EQ. In the first 5 minutes into the game my brother and I met a husband and wife who we ended up playing with for the next 4 years. We basically had a ready made group at any time. But there were a lot of people who spent the majority of their game time just sitting around waiting to actually get to play, that's not fun or hardcore or better in any way than having a tool that makes it easier to find groups. EQ was a glorified chat room as much as it was game and even though it's to this day my favorite MMO experience, that part of the game isn't something I miss.I truly don't see any significant difference between sitting in an area asking LF cleric as any different than the LFR, LFD tools of later except they are much quicker and more efficient. That was the end goal right? To actually do the content and not just sit around?
No, and that's a dumb question to ask, and even more dumb to use for comparative purposes. If you countered with something sensible, like "do you prefer skipping content you have already seen/experienced/outleveled while traveling to some place you are interested in and people are waiting on you?" and then I could have countered with "yes." And then you can rail about how content is more important than the destination (already seen/experienced/outleveled) and how wasting people's time or making it really inconvenient for them or lower the amount of content they can effectively do is really immersive and that modern games don't let you do that. At which point I would counter with "yes they do, they always have, and you can still do all the stupid tedious nonsense you want for immersion's sake, but it isn't being forced on everyone who has better things to do than wait for the Ocean of Tears boat for the thirtieth time."Do you go on vacation using Google Earth?
They added one eventually and no one ever used it. I don't know if it's because by that point anyone still playing EQ was only playing with guildmates, or what.If EQ had had had a group finder most of the people who rail against it would've welcomed it as much as the rest of us.
Even my 80-year old mom switched this spring. You're late.I actually just replaced my flip phone with a smart phone this week. It's gonna ROCK.
Yep. Especially late kunark+, the experience of a higher level druid was so vastly different from a higher level cleric. I could basically go anywhere and do anything when I logged on my cleric -- and we had more than a few druids quit because they couldn't get anything going outside of raid times.No, and that's a dumb question to ask, and even more dumb to use for comparative purposes. If you countered with something sensible, like "do you prefer skipping content you have already seen/experienced/outleveled while traveling to some place you are interested in and people are waiting on you?" and then I could have countered with "yes." And then you can rail about how content is more important than the destination (already seen/experienced/outleveled) and how wasting people's time or making it really inconvenient for them or lower the amount of content they can effectively do is really immersive and that modern games don't let you do that. At which point I would counter with "yes they do, they always have, and you can still do all the stupid tedious nonsense you want for immersion's sake, but it isn't being forced on everyone who has better things to do than wait for the Ocean of Tears boat for the thirtieth time."
But that conversation isn't quite on par with "Do you go on vacation using Google Earth?" so we probably won't have that conversation =\ It would have been relevant to the topic at hand, too, so double whammy.
zzeris/rafter: The difference is that people who think that they were always meeting awesome people while doing tedious shit like waiting for a cleric every time they logged in will say it is different. No real difference, because they can also talk to random people in every game ever while waiting for the queue on their dungeon/raid/whatever to pop. But to -them- it is different, man.
I'm not defending wow design decisions because they are shitty, but you don't queue up for mythic raiding and ignore everyone.More proof that your reputation on a server doesn't mean shit.
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Where are the drama threads? Where are the fun discussions and guild rivalries?
Wow server forums used to be drama delux. Now? No one even knows who's on their server outside of their own guild.
No need to. Just sit in your Garrison. Queue up for whatever you need. Ignore group chat. Be a dick all you want! You'll never see these people again.
Just came from doing Kazzak. A guy was joining pick-up raids, and repeatedly pulling Kazzak on the raid that was assembling, until he got kicked and de-zoned.Be a dick all you want! You'll never see these people again.
hehI'm glad someone has the balls to make something so fucking expensive
In general, of course but I see what you did there lol
You'll be expected to provide logs showing your performance over the last few months at the minimum and the interviewer will very likely check with past guilds to figure out if you're a jerk or not. Shit, I needed logs verifying I was a good tank before a heroic 2-day a week guild would take me. I talked to a few mythic guilds and they politely told me to fuck off and learn mythic with a heroic guild before trying to ride their gravy train.That's because lfd and lfr are so useless content and reward wise that no one gives a shit. If you want a comparison to wow then compare it to trying to join mythic progression on a server. Reputation probably matters there.