Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

Daezuel

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Well the positive of Vanguard being cancelled is it's bound to get at least 3 or 4 more people investing in Pantheon.
 
Muligan

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Just had another thought.... Maybe this was the inside track Brad has with SoE? Maybe he's getting VG source code? Even better.... Can we have their class names? You know, since they won't be using them.
 
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Merlin_sl said:
They never cared about Vanguard and just wanted it to die from the start. They would rather burn the IP then sell it and see anyone do anything with it.
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I agree. That's what I thought in 05-2007. It's such a horrible waste. A very good game can be made from it. A rebalancing sweep alone could make the game many here are looking for.
 
popsicledeath

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Muligan_sl said:
Just had another thought.... Maybe this was the inside track Brad has with SoE? Maybe he's getting VG source code? Even better.... Can we have their class names? You know, since they won't be using them.
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Confused. Because you say a smart thing, like taking class names, but also a dumb thing, like getting VG source code. Not sure if not unserious.
 
tad10

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mkopec_sl said:
Wow SoE clearing house I guess they are laying it all out for EQ next.....
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As I told Ut regarding his pantheon fantasy, SOE isn't doing well. It is only still around because of the ps4 ports and eqnext is only being funded because it to will go to the ps4.

Can't believe smedley still has a job
 
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Everyone from beta begged them to just take it down for a year, fix the engine and all the bugs and re-release it. But instead they opened the servers, put like, one dev(after the initial surge) on it and that was it. See how much they could milk from Brads subscribers. What a fucking waste. That game in many respects was a fucking masterpiece that just needed a lot of work.
 
tad10

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lysis_sl said:
I agree. That's what I thought in 05-2007. It's such a horrible waste. A very good game can be made from it. A rebalancing sweep alone could make the game many here are looking for.
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Vanguard would need like 10million to get restarted. New engine, many new art and animation assets, re itemization and all the post 50 stuff would have to go. It looks dated now.
 
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tad10_sl said:
Vanguard would need like 10million to get restarted. New engine, many new art and animation assets, re itemization and all the post 50 stuff would have to go. It looks dated now.
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This entire post is ridiculous. 10 million to fix a nearly complete game? And, the graphic are "dated"? Dude, you have high standards. I hope you didn't think Pantheon would have the latest greatest graphics. Wasn't that one of the best selling points for WOW? Its graphics were toned down so no matter what computer you had, you could play the game. That comment is insane. Nothing wrong with Vanguards graphics.
 
popsicledeath

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10 Million also reverts the characters models back to the early ones that weren't ugly and get helms to work. I swear Vanguard was the only game in history where character models got progressively uglier as development went on.
 
Big Flex

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tad10_sl said:
Vanguard would need like 10million to get restarted. New engine, many new art and animation assets, re itemization and all the post 50 stuff would have to go. It looks dated now.
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popsicledeath_sl said:
10 Million also reverts the characters models back to the early ones that weren't ugly and get helms to work. I swear Vanguard was the only game in history where character models got progressively uglier as development went on.
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Merlin_sl said:
This entire post is ridiculous. 10 million to fix a nearly complete game? And, the graphic are "dated"? Dude, you have high standards. I hope you didn't think Pantheon would have the latest greatest graphics. Wasn't that one of the best selling points for WOW? Its graphics were toned down so no matter what computer you had, you could play the game. That comment is insane. Nothing wrong with Vanguards graphics.
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Vanguard still runs like a complete piece of shit 7 years later. It still hitches, and loads way too often. The characters look like shit. The world looks like garbage. The design was amusing, but really outside of diplomacy which was really meh, it didn't innovate very much. It sucked in 2007. It sucks in 2014.

If they wanted to even just fix Vanguard into a decent game they'd have to port it to Forgelight and then redo the backend Sigil trainwreck that would probably take a ton of cash. If you want to compare Vanguard to a game, Shadowbane would be spot on. Smed was an idiot for even taking this thing on, and I bet he didn't spend any money on it, and since it wasn't popular then why would he invest to upgrade it?
 
Gavinmad

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popsicledeath_sl said:
10 Million also reverts the characters models back to the early ones that weren't ugly and get helms to work. I swear Vanguard was the only game in history where character models got progressively uglier as development went on.
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Luclin wants to know why you never return her calls anymore.
 
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