Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO
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Complete red herring. Vanguard didnd't succeed because the game was an unfinished piece of shit. If this doesn't fund, it's because the Kickstarter was likewise a complete piece of shit, with little invested into it by it's creators. The fact it's cleared 200k despite looking like an 8th grade school project speaks bigger volumes.
Dumar and you keep doing this false equivalence that this game equates to old school MMO desire, and needs to be funded. They are mutually exclusive, and I'd argue this should not be funded just like Vanguard never should have been released since it will actually hurt the chance of getting what many of us want.
DickTrickle
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Then why would be even bring it up... again remember this guy is the Vet EQ God with all the answers and not talking out of his ass. So if he is expecting a 20-50k pop why even go into cross realm bullshit? I mean they obviously thought about it prior because all the 2014 shills who showed up in the last week told me so.
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jooka
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By the same line of reasoning you are also opening up the interpretation that any half ass group of flunkies can throw shit at a wall and people who want an Old School MMO will lap it up. You might be sending the message that we want this style of game but you are also sending the message that any company can mitigate the risk of funding an MMO while retaining all of the reward, Smed, Ponytail, Kotick, Andrew Wilson and other industry leaders would love that idea.
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This is exactly it, why reward failure. I wonder if these guys are also the same cocksuckers at schools teaching kids that baseball should have no outs, everyone gets a turn, participation rewards. If they enjoy rewarding failure so much then why do they want a hard MMO they can stick with WOW and get rewarded for failure all day long.
4-8 million dollars from subscription revenues and 25-30 person staff seems like it could range from mildly profitable to highly profitable.
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Do you have a link for this? Did someone play FF7 while getting high in the garage this weekend?
zzeris
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Boozecube,
I think Brad believed they would have more subs just like Dumar, Etchazz, and Tad did. Like you've mentioned, Brad talks out of his ass a lot. This KS is dead and we both know it. Might as well let people have fun thinking about the possibility of success and future options. Brad is a shitty planner so who's going to give him a lot of money? a_skeleton_03 and his bitcoin empire? Etchazz who talks big but isn't even willing to donate? Nah, this is dead but no reason to keep shitting on the poor guys.
I think Brad believed they would have more subs just like Dumar, Etchazz, and Tad did. Like you've mentioned, Brad talks out of his ass a lot. This KS is dead and we both know it. Might as well let people have fun thinking about the possibility of success and future options. Brad is a shitty planner so who's going to give him a lot of money? a_skeleton_03 and his bitcoin empire? Etchazz who talks big but isn't even willing to donate? Nah, this is dead but no reason to keep shitting on the poor guys.
DickTrickle
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I actually think that if ForceGaming and Francis/Boogie get on this and advertise it to their members, there's actually a pretty damn good chance it DOES get funded. I'm as shocked as anyone, but right now I think the chances are more likely it gets funded and winds up being either a complete pile of shit or doesn't come out at all than not getting funded.
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Actually, I was here at the start, but when the FOH shit storm melt down happened I just didn't register right away, usually, there isn't to much to discuss here, I guess we can talk about Panda land, but I stopped playing WoW ages ago. As much as people act like I have a thing against Brad I don't really. I was disappointed with Vanguard but oh well he wasn't asking the community for support then either. If you had taken your detective work seriously and read through the posts I put, you will see I want this type of game to get funded I would love to see someone make a good old school MMO and I think it would be awesome for the community to back it, the names of the people involved aren't important. Actually having a team of professionals on it is. There are so many shills and fanboys so enamored by the idea of this that they are looking past all the fucked up shit and ignoring the fact that they were trying to mislead people. If I can help one person think twice before pissing away their money on this shit then I don't care who calls me a troll for it.
tad10
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I don't think funding of this kickstarter equates to old school mmo desire, I think most publishers or outside investors if they have eyes on this kickstarter would think that. At the end of the day I'd rather no kickstarter had happened then the current bad kickstarter but since all we have is a bad kickstarter I'll show some support.
Quaid
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My biggest concern is that it gets funded, my money is gone, and EQnext surpasses my expectations, is the new MMORPGeezus, and is too awesome to leave for Pantheon.
tad10
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Which is gecko's point better no game then a bad game. Need pickle quote from Anchorman.
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It's amazing how much social media can influence things. Sadly, I bet one tweet from Justin Beiber asking people to fund this would get the $5mil stretch goal by tonight, which is both depressing and amazing. I even commended Brad and Co. for reaching out to anyone with a large enough fan base to get the word out. It was a smart move, I mean you can't fuck up everything can you?