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Pretty sure EA didn't insist on Warhammer having shitty ability lag and (imo) absolutely shitty art direction that didn't live up to even a shred of expectations.
I think it's just the KS thing we keep harping on. It's like with novels, where you don't have very long to hook a reader. The KS just didn't have a hook. It was either easy to dismiss it (and no, like novels, most people aren't willing to "wait until it gets good"), or it was the kind of thing where to like it you had to keep digging for information.This is where my group of friends are at mostly. Out of a couple dozen guildies and real life friends I've gamed with over the last few decades, most of them backed in the low end tiers as a "fuck it, why not" pledge only. They've since then promptly forgotten about the game. One other person is keeping tabs on it other than myself. Only a couple had kickstarter accounts to begin with and a couple said kickstarter was a con and would take a look if it ever came out. Nobody really had an issue with Brad personally. Overall, skepticism and apathy due mostly to kickstarter.
Almost every single one of these people could have kicked into the $500+ range without batting an eye based on economic situations but just aren't into the KS thing or having a wait and see attitude. These are gamers that without fail order CE's and rebuy consoles with specific editions (and then never play or maybe even unbox the things). Have hundreds of games on steam that they'll never load. DINKs and professional grown children (and to be fair to them, I'm a complete man-child as well so I'm not taking a shot at them or anyone else similar). For context, most of these folks are apathetic with how SWToR came out (and followed it AND bought CE's). They don't have high expectations any more. The overwhelming response was, "what did you expect?". They're used to being disappointed.
Something about this project just missed the mark for this group (assuming the KS presentation as has been beaten to death and a lack of anything concrete to show them due to the stage of progress it's at). I had to point out that I looked at backing like going easy at a Vegas table for a few hours. That's what got them to actually pay in, they realized it was not really much of anything to throw a bit of cash at it and hope for the best (which is what they've been doing over and over again to get us shit for games for a over a decade now). These are all the same people that piss and moan about the "olde days" and how great EQ and those first days of WoW were so theyshouldbe interested in at least the sales pitch.
Just seems like an overall weird disconnect to me.
Agreed, I just figured out of that many of my friends there'd be a few more people like me willing to toss in a bit more (especially as bad as they moan about games). I'm a fairly active KS'er though so maybe it a profile thing. I backed Deliverance thanks to whoever first linked it here. Those guys are killing it on theirs. If their combat is good that game will may be incredible but no matter what, they've done an excellent job selling their idea. They are also believably "hungry" whatever that means. It comes across.I think it's just the KS thing we keep harping on. It's like with novels, where you don't have very long to hook a reader. The KS just didn't have a hook. It was either easy to dismiss it (and no, like novels, most people aren't willing to "wait until it gets good"), or it was the kind of thing where to like it you had to keep digging for information.
Other successful KSers are easy to like. After several minutes scanning the Deliverance: Kingdom Come, to use the 'unfair' example, I knew I'd feel comfortable pledging because they made it easy to like and support.
Pantheon's KS has never made it easy for people to justify supporting.
I'm experience the same thing. That, and there are quite a few people I've intentionally not tried to convince yet. I'm still hoping something more "Hell yeah I'll back" turns up before the end, because right now it's lacking that punch.Agreed, I just figured out of that many of my friends there'd be a few more people like me willing to toss in a bit more (especially as bad as they moan about games). I'm a fairly active KS'er though so maybe it a profile thing. I backed Deliverance thanks to whoever first linked it here. Those guys are killing it on theirs. If their combat is good that game will may be incredible but no matter what, they've done an excellent job selling their idea. They are also believably "hungry" whatever that means. It comes across.
I think the disconnect is '3 years from now'. It's not like there is anything on the KS that resembles the game itself in any way so it's hard for the average person to say 'that looks like something I want to play' when they are not seeing anything.Agreed, I just figured out of that many of my friends there'd be a few more people like me willing to toss in a bit more (especially as bad as they moan about games). I'm a fairly active KS'er though so maybe it a profile thing. I backed Deliverance thanks to whoever first linked it here. Those guys are killing it on theirs. If their combat is good that game will may be incredible but no matter what, they've done an excellent job selling their idea. They are also believably "hungry" whatever that means. It comes across.
Pretty much like the entire kickstarter. The only movement is all of us moving our pledges around. When we are all satisfied, the uptick stops.I think the disconnect is '3 years from now'. It's not like there is anything on the KS that resembles the game itself in any way so it's hard for the average person to say 'that looks like something I want to play' when they are not seeing anything.
On the funding side, it looks like everyone got all their addon's yesterday since today has been another slow day so far.
I wonder how much of the total # is from posters/lurkers here. I imagine it's very large.Pretty much like the entire kickstarter. The only movement is all of us moving our pledges around. When we are all satisfied, the uptick stops.
Meh, roughly 300 new people just this week mon-fri. Its not groundbreaking by any means. But its a steady trickle.Pretty much like the entire kickstarter. The only movement is all of us moving our pledges around. When we are all satisfied, the uptick stops.
Maybe Swamp Donkey will be a raid mob.I dunno if its been mentioned, but I still have FoH bookmarked and accidentally clicked it. Turns out it just redirects to Pantheons kickstarter heh, wonder if Tyen is putting EQBrowser on the shelf to take his talent to this game.
Trickle is the right word. Because if they average that the next three weeks, it barely puts them over 3k backers. In a week that's had an AMA interview, a Boogie interview, class and race reveals, addons, etc., that's not a great number over 5 days.Meh, roughly 300 new people just this week mon-fri. Its not groundbreaking by any means. But its a steady trickle.
A trickle isn't much to hang your hat on. Trust me, I would know.Meh, roughly 300 new people just this week mon-fri. Its not groundbreaking by any means. But its a steady trickle.
Yeah, probably that but most of these guys throw down cash no problem for stuff that they never even load up. I just don't see it that differently but I get what you're saying.I think the disconnect is '3 years from now'. It's not like there is anything on the KS that resembles the game itself in any way so it's hard for the average person to say 'that looks like something I want to play' when they are not seeing anything.
On the funding side, it looks like everyone got all their addon's yesterday since today has been another slow day so far.
No, someone (tuco I think?) asked Requiem to do it when he was posting in this thread and he did.I dunno if its been mentioned, but I still have FoH bookmarked and accidentally clicked it. Turns out it just redirects to Pantheons kickstarter heh, wonder if Tyen is putting EQBrowser on the shelf to take his talent to this game.
It's a long camp for a rare spawn =/Can this thing trickle all the way to $800,000? Unlikely. I was hoping for a bigger bump after the boogie interview. It didn't budge.
You've lost your mind. I assure you there were people who checked it out the first week and went "fuck no , he cant even run a KS site , I'm not donating to this".Anyone who is mildly interested in this game, and a potential backer, is not going to look at the kickstarter just once and walk away.