Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

Elidroth_sl said:

Stevie Case had no business being in that article. She's never actually made a single game. She was just someone who convinced Romero to buy her a set of boobs and a dye-job on her hair..

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I used to actually own that issue and I agree, she had no business being there but it was all about getting a woman on the cover so they could sell more magazines. The irony is I think she basically fell off the face of the earth after that article. I also remember one of Brad's quotes in that piece, basically saying 'players believe we (SoE) are actively trying to screw them but we are not.

Kreugen_sl said:

So.. does this mean no Vanguard 2?

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Seems not

Too soon?

Wonder if Troy Cosdick or whatever is still white knighting

Adebisi_sl said:

yeap

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This is why +nets needs to be switched back on

This pic is so good that you should charge for it

Dr Neir_sl said:

Too soon?

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Not a bad Vision there but not the one we want to play/pay for Unless perhaps invited to the parteeee !

Change the name to Pantheon: Fall of the Risen ?

It's really easy to pile on someone when they're down, but I don't believe this was a scam. Brad REALLY wanted to make this game, but things don't always work out the way you want. This most definitely was NOT a situation of putting up a website to try and soak money out of people for a short-term cash grab.

Elidroth_sl said:

It's really easy to pile on someone when they're down, but I don't believe this was a scam. Brad REALLY wanted to make this game, but things don't always work out the way you want. This most definitely was NOT a situation of putting up a website to try and soak money out of people for a short-term cash grab.

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The fact that they were working "pro-bono" for this passion project, and then Brad pulled the plug when the money ran dry (without telling the team) says he really didn't care too much about the game.

Elidroth_sl said:

It's really easy to pile on someone when they're down, but I don't believe this was a scam. Brad REALLY wanted to make this game, but things don't always work out the way you want. This most definitely was NOT a situation of putting up a website to try and soak money out of people for a short-term cash grab.

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Sarcasm ? Troll ?
Where did the money go ? If it isn't a scam, the answer should be easy.

Adebisi_sl said:

I asked for Falltheon: Fall of the Fallen

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LOL Faileon: Fall of the Failure

kudos_sl said:

I'd believe this until I remember that Brad won't show where the money went and produced pretty much nothing with $160k in the bank.

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well said. If the money is gone, where did it go ? why nothing showable for 160k ? We were getting an alpha build with 800 k in what they said 6mon ?

Now perhaps 160 does not get you anything you can show ? But given the obvious lack of effort and pure "thrown together at the last minute" approach of the KS, it makes you wonder how much work was actually DONE.

In addition, to my knowledge none of the folks that were/are working there "got that much". Perhaps they are lying and covering the fact that they got a chunk of money for nothing ? Or they are telling the truth and Brad pocketed the dough ?

Be interesting if you guys can find out DETAIL about how much folks were paid ... it would go to show where the dirty behavior resides.

All that pro bono work with unity asset store items and using the fps map demo down the drain, i have no pity for brad, he quit soe again to do this stupid half assed attempt of a game and blew 150k in a month.