I just heard something that has me thinking. We had people over for lunch today, father, son, mother. The son is 17 and is a really tough kid. He has excellent parents. This kid just fell in with the wrong crowd. Got involved in drugs, has been a douchebag for the last year. Totally disrespects his parents, not okay at all. Seems impervious to punishment like no cell phone, no computer, no games, no going out...essentially this kid is on house arrest. He still is an absolute ass to his parents. While at our house he was being such a disrespectful shit to his mother it took a lot of will power for me not to say anything. I know these folks never spanked their son, have been seriously involved in his life, brought him to practices, took him to lessons, did everything right as far as anyone could tell. I know anything's possible, but I've known this couple for 25 years and they are amazing. They were also incredibly good and gracious with my own children, watching them often when my wife and I took a weekend away.
So this kid was resentfully sitting at lunch, being a total lump (his parents don't like leaving him at home because he gets friends over who bring him pot or whatever the flavour of the day is), and he keeps making shitty comments to and about his parents. At one point he says, "Mom, don't be so fucking stupid. You're always the stupidest person in the room."
I could see that his father had hit a limit. It was just plainly evident. He looked at his son, very calm but clearly furious, and said to him, "You're too big for me to start spanking. However, if you ever speak to my wife like that again I will deal with you the same way I would deal with any other man who said that. Is anything I just said unclear?"
The son absolutely blanched. He had clearly hit a new low. His parents are clearly done being supportive in that way. He replied, "No sir." He didn't say another word for the remaining 2 hours they were there. He looked like someone punched him in the face. I'm not for anyone physically abusing their kids, despite what the local Russian fuckstick says, but at 17, being that disrespectful needs to carry a penalty. There was not an expressed threat of physical retaliation, but it was very clear that he would no longer be welcome in the house.
So, FOH parents, thoughts on this?