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Caeden

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I’m starting blazing salvo mines but I’m sure as shit bringing a BL and GC gem up too just in case. I don’t think the BL nerf hurts the mine build much. It has trashed the COC build imo since it already has the lowest AE of the major CoC builds.
 

ronne

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Please explain. The skill preview looked average.

All their videos look average at best lol. I'm hoping shattering will clear a lot better than just basically being a shitty ranged version of lacerate, even it will probably require chain or fork support.

Lancing probably clears like a god but I don't see it having any kind of realistic single target numbers unfortunately. Could be a potential gem swap though depending on what the others shake out like.
 

Deathwing

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All their videos look average at best lol. I'm hoping shattering will clear a lot better than just basically being a shitty ranged version of lacerate, even it will probably require chain or fork support.

Lancing probably clears like a god but I don't see it having any kind of realistic single target numbers unfortunately. Could be a potential gem swap though depending on what the others shake out like.
Lancing looked the worst of the bunch. It's true that their highlight videos usually suck(except for Venom Gyre) but even relative to its poor standard, Lancing Steel cleared like shit.
 

Deathwing

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My main issue with dom blow was that minions kill shit before you get a chance to hit if you're not zooming really fast, so it's somewhat "stressful" for a minion build cause if you stop hitting stuff you start losing minions and then sure you can hit them more easily, but you also have less minions so you're more likely to die. It was otherwise very powerful and you do get more sustain than traditional summoners since you can get life on hit and stuff.

I'm mostly waiting to see these alternate skill gems shit to figure out if I'll bother playing. I'm not too interested in Heist but if they have some interesting quality minion gems I might. Skeleton was somewhat interesting but I don't want to play ranged skeletons either, and zombie felt like a fucking joke so not sure that's gonna happen. I'm also somewhat interested in Salvo but they didn't change shit for elementalist(other than making golems persist through log ins, which admitedly is a big QoL but they need a better way to make golems not die too) and I don't like playing the other classes as much.
Tribal Fury + Multistrike + Melee Splash generally solves this issue. It's definitely less laid back than other minion builds, that is still true. I can't decide Witch or Templar. The nerf to Glancing Blows seems to make Witch better now.


Nirgon Nirgon depends what you're stacking int for. Whispering Ice has been affected.
 

Thregin

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Shattering steel numbers look sick, basically better than double strike numbers with an extra 200% more like wth...but trying to map something out in PoB..what can i say, it's not a melee ability, so you're SOL for so many gems and passives, so atleast for me i couldn't find a way to make it work. First thought was a saviour variant to help create impales that you can suck up vs bosses otherwise you spend 2 charges to get 1 impale/charge back. If you could use multistrike that would be fixed and it would speed up the impale ramp too but no.

TL: DR Shattering steel seems too janky so I atleast am not brave enough to league start it even if i was super hyped for like 30 minutes.
 

Arbitrary

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I want to do stuff with Flame Wall but I'm a potato. How quickly will the actual good players figure out if there's good things to do with it and what those things are?
 

Deathwing

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Gem preview later tonight will help a lot with that. If they follow through with their intentions with the skill, it will be potent but low duration. Like, 2 seconds but adds a lot of flat fire and dot to projectiles. If the duration is long enough that you can keep it up with the trigger weapon enchant, that's going to be really disappointing.
 
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ronne

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Shattering steel numbers look sick, basically better than double strike numbers with an extra 200% more like wth...but trying to map something out in PoB..what can i say, it's not a melee ability, so you're SOL for so many gems and passives, so atleast for me i couldn't find a way to make it work. First thought was a saviour variant to help create impales that you can suck up vs bosses otherwise you spend 2 charges to get 1 impale/charge back. If you could use multistrike that would be fixed and it would speed up the impale ramp too but no.

TL: DR Shattering steel seems too janky so I atleast am not brave enough to league start it even if i was super hyped for like 30 minutes.

Yea you're not kidding. I saw the numbers for shattering steel as well and it looked sick, but holy shit I forgot how like basically every physical gem that exists has melee only tags on it.

You get brutality and then what, like viscious proj and impale? I guess you use conc effect? Fork or chain? Damage options look real sparse though.
 

Pyros

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Yea you're not kidding. I saw the numbers for shattering steel as well and it looked sick, but holy shit I forgot how like basically every physical gem that exists has melee only tags on it.

You get brutality and then what, like viscious proj and impale? I guess you use conc effect? Fork or chain? Damage options look real sparse though.
Brutality, Viscious, Point Blank, Impale, Slower Proj, one of Fork/Chain/LMP/GMP/Volley/Pierce. Maim too if slower proj or point blank isn't good, and it's possible you'll want 2 of the projectile spread things for map clearing anyway like fork+lmp or whatever no idea how it plays out.
 

ronne

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Yea gonna have to just play with them and see I guess. First inclination is to go champion and just stack impales, but man that entire phys area of the tree is just littered with melee-only tags, looking real hard to find damage for this.
 

Thregin

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Like said Impale, brutality and vicious are the only great supports. I assume if you hit mob A only mobs B and C can take damage from the explosion so i don't think conc effect would help much at all on bosses, if it does you'd have 5 good links atleast. Thinking about it you'd probably want to essence craft elder gloves because you only have 4 good links anyway.

On elder gloves you can get some of this

16% more attack speed essence
faster attacks support
chance to bleed support
faster proj support
accuracy support
and crit multi

Point blank on the tree obviously.
And then get the new replica shroud of the lightless, with 6 flaring abyss jewels and paradoxica and saviour. I dunno :D
 

Caeden

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If it says “with melee weapons” doesn’t that work for the steel skills? It’s not saying melee attack.
 

ronne

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Yea the passives aren't the primary issue, it's all the good red gems having the melee tag and the steel skills not.
 

ronne

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You can put detonate mines on left click now right? May finally give a miner a try so I don't wind up starting with a melee build again and hating my life.
 

Deathwing

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Same patch that let you put enduring cry on left click. It's not as rosy as you might think. It's definitely an improvement for mapping, but it makes managing a long detonation sequence during boss fights close to impossible.
 

ronne

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Same patch that let you put enduring cry on left click. It's not as rosy as you might think. It's definitely an improvement for mapping, but it makes managing a long detonation sequence during boss fights close to impossible.

I figure it can't be any clunkier than self casting bladefall/bladeblast which I didn't mind too much. Glacial cascade is new and kinda spicy looking, so may give that a roll with some mines just to build some cash before I inevitably build a terrible steel build.
 

Deathwing

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I figure it can't be any clunkier than self casting bladefall/bladeblast which I didn't mind too much. Glacial cascade is new and kinda spicy looking, so may give that a roll with some mines just to build some cash before I inevitably build a terrible steel build.
Clunkier I would say. How many times have you dodged a boss ability that you've dodged thousands of times, but you still die to it once in a while because keeping LMB depressed is such a habit? The ol walk out of the fire only to walk right back into it.

Self casting bladefall/blade blast is
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. I'm slightly worried of the 1-2 combo playstyle they've been pushing.
 

Apostolos

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Just out of curiosity, is there a guild of sorts of people here that help each or group up at all? I am going to try and play a lot next week and don't mind being on the lookout for build defining items that some builds need and such. (not that I'm a super player by any stretch) I'm going ele hit balistas so hopefully the items I will need are not quite as in high demand as say ED Contagion stuff (which did not get nerfed amazingly but will most likely be overplayed yet again) Can always hit me up in game once the league starts up (same account name) for maps and what have you. For some reason there is always that 1 map per tier I just cannot get to drop and Zana refuses to give me.
 

ronne

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We have a forum guild yea, though only maybe like a dozen or so people play actively, and it falls off pretty quick. I don't actually remember who controls it though?