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I guess I should be flattered you think I'm some kind of mastermind, or has the long con been going on since Nov 25 2021?
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I guess I should be flattered you think I'm some kind of mastermind, or has the long con been going on since Nov 25 2021?
Xevy
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It does blow my mind when some of the trollier/shittier posters come into the video game section and it turns out they infact play video games.
Then we have the chronic posters who say "What's Everquest?" and I think they should be locked in Pol forever.
Then we have the chronic posters who say "What's Everquest?" and I think they should be locked in Pol forever.
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Seems to be pretty decent overall, though some lantern rewards got re-nerfed due to people exploiting. I am only up to yellow maps but overall the difficulty has only gone up a bit, but apparently some of the red maps + T17 maps are insanely hard to beat. Will probably be nerfed a bit before I make it that far
Penance
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Very good imo. I'd say its a now a tier A to S league depending on what you like to do.
Thregin
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This post could use some tidying up but i can't be bothered to do that so here goes instead of just deleting it and not posting.
In the end end game the scarab/juicing situation has me a bit burned out and i haven't been particularly excited to log on. But maybe im dumb or i just haven't found the right strat (and also character)
There's a few reasons that tie into each other.
1. There's too many different scarabs now.
2. Sextants were 4 scarabs in 1 and it hasn't been made up for.
3. Awakened sextants could be sold to someone that wanted to roll and sell compasses piece by piece, now everyone is in essence forced to sell compasses
4. Because of 3 the market is small so when trying to buy in bulk it hardly makes sense economically the price you'd have to pay (but maybe like i said i might be stupid or i've just tried doing stupid strats)
5. Easy alch and go strats like essence are much less efficient now if you don't partake in the scarab market.
What's been the easiest to do and get an relaxing 10 or something divines an hour out of has honestly been sanctum but doing sanctum + making a build for sanctum is not exciting. Mapping in contrast you get loot that would take more work than previously to liquidate (this also includes corpses) as i expounded upon already.
In the end end game the scarab/juicing situation has me a bit burned out and i haven't been particularly excited to log on. But maybe im dumb or i just haven't found the right strat (and also character)
There's a few reasons that tie into each other.
1. There's too many different scarabs now.
2. Sextants were 4 scarabs in 1 and it hasn't been made up for.
3. Awakened sextants could be sold to someone that wanted to roll and sell compasses piece by piece, now everyone is in essence forced to sell compasses
4. Because of 3 the market is small so when trying to buy in bulk it hardly makes sense economically the price you'd have to pay (but maybe like i said i might be stupid or i've just tried doing stupid strats)
5. Easy alch and go strats like essence are much less efficient now if you don't partake in the scarab market.
1.With no easy way like harvest rerolls to get what you want to use/sell in 1 big bulk the scarab tab is just a black hole of individual stacks worth 20c that i can't be bothered to sell one at a time especially with all the price checks it would require and it doesnt feel like the poe ninja prices you'd get on tft bulk selling the tab would be accurate 2. Sextants were basically 4 scarabs in one and they used to drop a lot, could for example walk out of a sanctum run with 64+ of them which is the equivalent of 256 scarabs and that shortfall of some of the rarer compasses (now scarabs) hasnt been made up for imo. 3. sextants could be easily sold to someone that wanted to roll and sell them so you could avoid said black hole of a tab of random compasses and then just buy the compasses you wanted back from the person rolling them. 4. said blackhole effects the whole market so there are less around to buy from people it feels like.
What's been the easiest to do and get an relaxing 10 or something divines an hour out of has honestly been sanctum but doing sanctum + making a build for sanctum is not exciting. Mapping in contrast you get loot that would take more work than previously to liquidate (this also includes corpses) as i expounded upon already.
I just started playing the game around Affliction, but I just play to have fun....I dont even understand half of what you said. I feel like people that are super experienced only want to cash in and treat the game like a casino. (I mean, it kinda is).
I just enjoy slowly upgrading my character and attempting to solve the little things that get me killed +progress further. Though I guess once you've played a ton of leagues it isn't even challenging anymore.
(No disrespect intended, I have no fucking clue what I'm doing for the most part)
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I was looking into a Back to Basics atlas tree, have you tried that at all? Picking up all the scarab and map nodes for scarab drop chance and map modifier%, conqueror, shaper/elder, synth map chance drop from bosses, then just blitzing maps. No clue if it's good but seems like a relaxing build.
Thregin
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I know i "can" do 3:1 i just doubt it's actually economically viable, seems like a ssf strat if anything.
I have blocked an obvious stinker like abyss and legion, but there's low value scarabs you can't block so out of an EV standpoint it's not so easy to figure what to block.
I've played a lot this league already, finished my atlas and done t17 stuff so i'm talking very end end game and yea i've played this game since 3.5 so almost 20 patches now.
Haven't tried it no but seems worth checking out.
I have run a shaper/conq/synt map drop tree with the scarabs that makes shrines acompanied by map bosses with as many shrines as possible. It's pretty fun but not super exciting profit the way i did it atleast it seemed to me.
Seems like it except scarabs is only 3:1 and skill gems can't be converted to 20% qual
Gotcha, kinda figured. Hope to get to that level at some point but it'll be a while. Have no idea how people progress so fast, I'm just happy to be into maps before the first week is up.
Pasteton
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It’s hard to really compare this league to other leagues because everything is just completely turned on its head in endgame. It’s going to take a while to figure out where it shakes out. No more Scarab explosions but you get probably more scarabs per map than ever before , but then you kind of need to since sextants are gone. Overall just a confusing league to parse for me
Borzak
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I'm not playing and not going to finish the league. The mapping may suck or whatever but I thought the league crafting was okay after the first patch due to a number of changes. I liked being able to throw all the + of stuff together you wanted and - of stuff you didn't want to at least get something useable while leveling.
Penance
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Dunno I'm really having fun not trading and being beholden to a volatile/novell market. I think that's one of the reasons I'm enjoying this league so much. I made a foil for my CoC DD build using the new necro thing.
T1 crit, t2 multi, t2 atkspeed and crafted hits cannot be evaded (thanks grips). So satisfying progressing gear made with just the resources from yourself and guild mates.
I think last epoch really drove the point to how much I hate trading in rpgs
T1 crit, t2 multi, t2 atkspeed and crafted hits cannot be evaded (thanks grips). So satisfying progressing gear made with just the resources from yourself and guild mates.
I think last epoch really drove the point to how much I hate trading in rpgs
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Xevy
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Made these as a goof because I was running out of room with corpses. I obviously messed up and didn't add enough +mod tier, but overall pretty good. Took, like, 35-45 corpses maybe? Made them for myself, though trade said they're worth a lot more.
Penance
I've been in trade since I've been playing 11 years ago. I never once gave a shit about how much money I was making or what other people were doing to make money. It's infinitely more enjoyable if you don't give in to the Reddit FOMO shit. There's one thing if you're doing something that puts you at a disatvantage, like running two Atlas Nodes that cancel each other out, but it's another thing entirely when people run strategies to make money and make 50% less than some other strat. Like, this ain't your fucking job dudes. Play the game to have fun. If you NEED a Mageblood or Headhunter or Squire or whatever to play the build you want, then you can sell your soul and farm Harvest juice to flip to China or whatever the fuck, but that's an entirely different game. You're no longer an attack unit, you're just "Yes Me Lord"ing more wood for the people in control.
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I think there's legitimate issues with supply and demand affecting the prices of build-enabling uniques. I hope no one is playing a build that requires Nimis. Or even the content you like to do costs 10x more because "the word is out".
Otherwise, the game has been rewarding enough that you can fuck around quite inefficiently and still accomplish your goals before league participation dwindles. Back when you had to scrounge for red maps, I think general FOMO was justified. Not playing "correctly" meant dropping down to T10 maps sometimes.
Otherwise, the game has been rewarding enough that you can fuck around quite inefficiently and still accomplish your goals before league participation dwindles. Back when you had to scrounge for red maps, I think general FOMO was justified. Not playing "correctly" meant dropping down to T10 maps sometimes.
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Made these as a goof because I was running out of room with corpses. I obviously messed up and didn't add enough +mod tier, but overall pretty good. Took, like, 35-45 corpses maybe? Made them for myself, though trade said they're worth a lot more.
Yep, I ran Metamorph in my maps because I thought it was fun. I ran it from when the scarab was introduced until they took it out. Every single person who saw it said "Your are wasting those nodes, it isn't very profitable." I told them I played it because I enjoyed it; the looks of confusion I got were priceless.
Xevy
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TBH 90% of the "red maps sustain" shit was because people followed speed runners guides to get atlas completion instead of a guide to build up your atlas. Not once in my entire existence have I gone "huh, I'm out of T14+'s" while alch n going. But I also correctly fill the atlas out bottom-up via horizons and then zana. Another Reddit HOT TIP fucking over normies.
Nimis is weird because for a lot of builds, you suddenly just do double damage. That's a LOT of power for a single item. It should be worth it and the leagues where it was 3 divines or whatever were strange ones indeed. Mostly because I think it was when Vengeful Cascade annoint was giga overpowered. However making your build only work under the condition of one item that you have no reasonable way to attain but to grind money for is... shitty? I don't know. Some people like making currency and eco strats and shit, but then they show off these characters they zug zug'd 100 hours to just buy on some broken 2 mirror build and Ronnie Redditor thinks he should be able to do that too with his 6 hours of gametime a week. It's just weird expectations.
Abyss was "nerfed" this league. So sad about it. So sad in fact, that I went in all the way to the atlas and specced every Abyss node, because I like Abyss and wanted more exp per map, and wouldn't you know it? No one else was doing it. It ended up by me just doing abyss I netted 70 divines in shit as by-catch. 3 Gazes, 1 3 socket Lightless armor, 2 2socket lightless, probably 10+ Darkness Enthroned over 90%, and more eyes worth 20-100c than you'd ever imagine. Just by playing the game because the herd decided that Grimro or Jung or whoever said it was "nerfed".
People need to basically not read Reddit or live vicariously off the Twitchers, especially the mega traders and the HC players. Their shit DOESN'T APPLY to you. It's like asking an F1 driver what's the best way to get your golf cart unstuck from a sandtrap. I mean Boneshatter was killed before the league started not by nerfs, but by word of mouth. Cue people playing Boneshatter and finding out: It's the same and with some new warcry tech possibly even better! Huzzah!
TL;DR Don't play the game div/hour because that's not what this game is. Don't listen to Reddit. Don't watch Ghazzy make a 3 mirror helm. Do what you want to do and IF YOU HIT A FUCKING WALL, look for guidance. Stop trying to make a mageblood in 3 days to farm bosses to make 15 mirrors to buy a mirror build to... do what? You spend so much time grinding you don't get to enjoy the small things like just slaying shit and finding a 2 dong item. Instead you get made when your 2 dong invested map drops 2 dongs. It's just all so tiring and toxic for the game as a whole.
Nimis is weird because for a lot of builds, you suddenly just do double damage. That's a LOT of power for a single item. It should be worth it and the leagues where it was 3 divines or whatever were strange ones indeed. Mostly because I think it was when Vengeful Cascade annoint was giga overpowered. However making your build only work under the condition of one item that you have no reasonable way to attain but to grind money for is... shitty? I don't know. Some people like making currency and eco strats and shit, but then they show off these characters they zug zug'd 100 hours to just buy on some broken 2 mirror build and Ronnie Redditor thinks he should be able to do that too with his 6 hours of gametime a week. It's just weird expectations.
Abyss was "nerfed" this league. So sad about it. So sad in fact, that I went in all the way to the atlas and specced every Abyss node, because I like Abyss and wanted more exp per map, and wouldn't you know it? No one else was doing it. It ended up by me just doing abyss I netted 70 divines in shit as by-catch. 3 Gazes, 1 3 socket Lightless armor, 2 2socket lightless, probably 10+ Darkness Enthroned over 90%, and more eyes worth 20-100c than you'd ever imagine. Just by playing the game because the herd decided that Grimro or Jung or whoever said it was "nerfed".
People need to basically not read Reddit or live vicariously off the Twitchers, especially the mega traders and the HC players. Their shit DOESN'T APPLY to you. It's like asking an F1 driver what's the best way to get your golf cart unstuck from a sandtrap. I mean Boneshatter was killed before the league started not by nerfs, but by word of mouth. Cue people playing Boneshatter and finding out: It's the same and with some new warcry tech possibly even better! Huzzah!
TL;DR Don't play the game div/hour because that's not what this game is. Don't listen to Reddit. Don't watch Ghazzy make a 3 mirror helm. Do what you want to do and IF YOU HIT A FUCKING WALL, look for guidance. Stop trying to make a mageblood in 3 days to farm bosses to make 15 mirrors to buy a mirror build to... do what? You spend so much time grinding you don't get to enjoy the small things like just slaying shit and finding a 2 dong item. Instead you get made when your 2 dong invested map drops 2 dongs. It's just all so tiring and toxic for the game as a whole.