Path of Exile

Deathwing said:

Doing an occultist myself since I want to hit 600 delve, just in case I want to do 40 this league(probably not). Did you pick up the ES on hit Watcher's Eye? Been trying to decide between that one or ES from mana.

ES on hit doesn't actually add much recovery. If you do some napkin math:

9 projectiles/attack * 10 APS * 0.5(average chance for ball to hit humanoid sized target) * 1.5(extra projectiles from good AC positioning) * 25 = ~1700 ES/s. Vaal Pact leech or Vile Bastion are much higher. What would seem really nice is situations where you dash into a pack and take a few big hits, CWDT - Ball Lightning - Slower Proj(or just Firestorm) will get some sustain going before you even start attacking and having to wait for those balls to drop.

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ES on hit is no joke dude and it stacks with the things you mentioned ES regen, Vaal Pact, and Vile Bastion. I would strongly recommend Purity of Ice and Physical Damage Taken as Cold x2 with a jewel and maybe helm? That carried me to 1200 last league pretty easily, especially if you have the funds for Atziris shield.

OK, forumbros, I've hit a roadblock. I'm doing Atlas now and just barely (doing T3 maps atm) and when I get to either a boss or a syndicate spawn, I get wiped the fuck out. I'm stuck at 0xp level 75 even though I am able to clear the map eventually. Any help is appreciated.

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Deathwing said:

Hmmm, my reservations are already tight on Discipline, Enfeeble, Temporal Chains, and Aspect of the Spider. I'm not running an Enlighten on the curses but an Enhance instead, which might be equal to what you suggest? IDK.

Could run a blasphemy, enhance, enlighten for each curse, but that's three gem slots I'd have to find somewhere...

How did you get phys taken as cold on your helm last league? Isn't that Incursion only? Even this league, that's going to be fun finding a well-rolled ES helm with that mod and MS enchant. It would probably be easier to go Purity of Fire or Elements and take phys as fire.

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I was low life and maybe you are just ES, I know discipline and i think AA were reserved from life? def had 2 things reserved to make me fall low enough to be low life. The reason I used purity of ice and phys taken as cold is because the exploding roaches and a lot of the mobs being cold dmg based. I got rocked by those cockroaches until I learned to watch the telegraph of the fuse coming from the roof.

Delve 600 is cake anyway dude, you're going to smoke it. It starts getting spicy and real dangerous around the 1000-1200 mark,

Kaines said:

OK, forumbros, I've hit a roadblock. I'm doing Atlas now and just barely (doing T3 maps atm) and when I get to either a boss or a syndicate spawn, I get wiped the fuck out. I'm stuck at 0xp level 75 even though I am able to clear the map eventually. Any help is appreciated.

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Most of your gear doesn't have flat life. You're still rocking a 4 link on your main skill? Replace everything. Get flat life on everything. Try a tabula, or another cheap 6link with actual stats. You should be able to dramatically increase your HP, while keeping resists capped, for a few chaos per slot at this point. If you're in game I can log in to throw you a few hundred C as well.

Kythik said:

Most of your gear doesn't have flat life. You're still rocking a 4 link on your main skill? Replace everything. Get flat life on everything. Try a tabula, or another cheap 6link with actual stats. You should be able to dramatically increase your HP, while keeping resists capped, for a few chaos per slot at this point. If you're in game I can log in to throw you a few hundred C as well.

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I'm at work currently. I do have a TR in the bank I farmed when I first got to Act 8. I just thought the resist stats on the body armor I have would be more important. I know I'm low on HP, but I didn't want to compound the problem by not being resist stat capped.

Kaines said:

OK, forumbros, I've hit a roadblock. I'm doing Atlas now and just barely (doing T3 maps atm) and when I get to either a boss or a syndicate spawn, I get wiped the fuck out. I'm stuck at 0xp level 75 even though I am able to clear the map eventually. Any help is appreciated.

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I don't know what build you're trying to do so can't give much input on your talent tree even though theres some dubious stuff imo, like taking 5% hp from the scion wheel instead of 6% by "devotion" just to start. Your gear though is just atrociously bad and you could get big upgrades for you for 20c or so probably...Get some sulphite and go delve and you can easily make that selling fossils if you dont have any currency already

Kaines said:

I'm at work currently. I do have a TR in the bank I farmed when I first got to Act 8. I just thought the resist stats on the body armor I have would be more important. I know I'm low on HP, but I didn't want to compound the problem by not being resist stat capped.

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You'll be able to work in a tabula, increase your HP, and stay resist capped.

Thregin said:

I don't know what build you're trying to do so can't give much input on your talent tree even though theres some dubious stuff imo, like taking 5% hp from the scion wheel instead of 6% by "devotion" just to start. Your gear though is just atrociously bad and you could get big upgrades for you for 20c or so probably...Get some sulphite and go delve and you can easily make that selling fossils if you dont have any currency already

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It's my own Thor's Hammer build. And missing the 6% next to Devotion was an oversight on my part. I should have taken it already.

Kaines said:

It's my own Thor's Hammer build. And missing the 6% next to Devotion was an oversight on my part. I should have taken it already.

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Lol, my EXACT story. My first character sits right now still at level 75 with probably a 4 link main skill and about 6k dps. I could get through maps and then die over and over to bosses I couldn’t do any real dmg to. Starting over and following a well written guide fixed me right up and is probably the best idea for anyone still learning.

Warmuth said:

Lol, my EXACT story. My first character sits right now still at level 75 with probably a 4 link main skill and about 6k dps. I could get through maps and then die over and over to bosses I couldn’t do any real dmg to. Starting over and following a well written guide fixed me right up and is probably the best idea for anyone still learning.

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Oh god, the "paint by numbers" guides to PoE. I really hope this game isn't so horribly designed that those are the only way to enjoy the full game.

They can be pretty important when you're first starting out just to get a better idea of how things fit together to make a viable endgame build.

If you just try and freeball your very first character you're gonna run in to a lot of walls and spend a lot of time respecing your tree etc, which is fine too but it will take a long time to figure it all out.

ronne said:

They can be pretty important when you're first starting out just to get a better idea of how things fit together to make a viable endgame build.

If you just try and freeball your very first character you're gonna run in to a lot of walls and spend a lot of time respecing your tree etc, which is fine too but it will take a long time to figure it all out.

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I'm ok with that. Kythik gave really good advise and pointed out that I basically failed in the primary gameplay portion of all of this, which is the loot pinata portion of the game. This is a Diablo clone and I basically failed massivly in continually upgrading my gear. I'll start there and see how far that gets me.

Deathwing said:

A bit surprised to say you went LL. I thought that was typically done to get more dps, not survivability due to the limit of how much ES you can get out of a Shav's vs some of the stupid Vaal Regalias you can get these days.

@Bragon are you certain that's just from Zealot's Oath? I specced out a HoWA jugg and I can't seem to get more than 10% ES regen. The recharge kicking in seems more plausible.

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LL on top of the 30% more spell dmg also allows those extra auras for defense reserving life and my ES was 12k with a Shav's. I also used almost every aura node on tree also for reduced res and effect.

I didn't really like the cyclone build I was following so after watching the ZiggyD videos, I respecced my witch from fireball/ignite to ci/vortex occultist and the power increase has been insane. Fireball ignites were doing about 25k/s, vortex is now at 85k and goes up to over 130k/s with procs, and that's just wearing a bunch of 1 alchemy uniques, a tabula and some random drops I found. Bosses just melt, drop a vortex on them and just run around for a second or two while they fall over dead. Syndicate which used to give me heaps of trouble now usually die before they've even finished their speech. Only have 5.5k ES but everything just dies before it gets anywhere near.

It's also much easier to play than the fireball build because you don't need to target anything, just drop AoEs in the general area and you're done.

Kaines said:

Oh god, the "paint by numbers" guides to PoE. I really hope this game isn't so horribly designed that those are the only way to enjoy the full game.

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It kind of is.

Although I bumbled into a ranger meta build just picking with a basic plan in mind, so it's not too bad. You've got to take str and life nodes though. It is absoslutely mandatory. The skill web that they have is deceptive as hell. Realistically you're gonna have like 1 or 2 skills and everything in your skill tree is going to be geared to either survive (hp) or directly support those skill gems that you took.

I mean they could pretty much redesign the skill web entirely imho. It's overly complex for the sake of being overly complex. But the PoE fanbase kinda loves that. So ya know, stick with what's popular.

It's changed since i played years ago. These days it looks like 75% of the game is in gear.

The game progression has eased up an awful lot. It looks like you can hit 75ish with just about anything, and that's the main story. When you start mapping you'll start getting 1shot gibbed off random shit. And that's when you tighten a build and start to read forums. Then you'll do that and start getting 1shot gibbed at 85, and that's when you tigten your gear and read the forums. And when you hit 90 you'll realize that the final ten levels are intented for group play, really. You -could- grognard it out, and some people do. Too tedious for me though.

It was pretty horrible when all it was was 3 acts and then do it again with -resists and +numbers. Game has improved a whole lot.

2 weeks from tomorrow the press embargo is lifted, so much excitement coming