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Damn those double nerfs on the curses, that's pretty unexpected. It doesn't even buff the damage curses that much on these mobs as a result which was the intent of the change supposedly. Like you still only get 33% curse efficiency on uber elder or whatever with your flammability or other shit curse, instead of 20%. Which really won't make that much of a difference. Meanwhile enfeeble+tempchains are nerfed into the ground, they're both a bit shittier against the previous shit AND a lot shittier against everything that wasn't flagged, including random rares.
Convocation buff is nice, didn't expect such a large buff honestly. With 20quality it's 3.2secs cd which is fairly reasonable, as a Necro it's 1.6seconds cd only, which starts being really great for moving shit around at will.
They finally added Chaos damage to a vendor, after like 6years of asking for it.
Some of the nerfs are a bit curious. Cold Snap was nerfed for some reason? Not much, just like 1% or whatever, but it's a weird adjustment. Bone helmets were severely nerfed too for some reason, I guess because the implicit now stacks with lab enchants? Still seems like a fucking pain in the dick to get the right enchant though so seems heavy handed.
Convocation buff is nice, didn't expect such a large buff honestly. With 20quality it's 3.2secs cd which is fairly reasonable, as a Necro it's 1.6seconds cd only, which starts being really great for moving shit around at will.
They finally added Chaos damage to a vendor, after like 6years of asking for it.
Some of the nerfs are a bit curious. Cold Snap was nerfed for some reason? Not much, just like 1% or whatever, but it's a weird adjustment. Bone helmets were severely nerfed too for some reason, I guess because the implicit now stacks with lab enchants? Still seems like a fucking pain in the dick to get the right enchant though so seems heavy handed.
Derkon
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Yeah storm brand is still fine, I wouldn't play Arc though.
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How are you getting those numbers for Convocation? 4/(1 + 0.2) = 3.333s. 4/(1 + 0.2 + 0.5) = 2.352s.
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I think I'm still going for Storm Brand occultist or elementalist out the gate anyway. After that, we'll see. Maybe Molten Strike or if something really gets crazy on the holy spells and inquisitor....
My understanding is that essence drain nor contagion can benefit from leech?
My understanding is that essence drain nor contagion can benefit from leech?
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Oh you're right I was doing cooldown reduction so just 20% less and such. Not as good then but still pretty good.
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Essence Drain can, but only on the initial hit, which isn't much of the total damage(it is however a bit better now that's it a small aoe). It also has its own life regen rolled into it, although I'm unsure if you can convert that to ES(Zealot's Oath maybe, not Ghost Reaver though since it isn't technically leech). Contagion doesn't have any hit so it can't leech.
zombiewizardhawk
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Edit: After looking at the wiki for both, ED gem is the one that says contagion will transfer it. As far as how it plays, I imagine it's like inpulsa/hoi for clearing out side packs (which I've never really done) turned up to 11. You pop an ed and contagion on a mob and watch 10 screens die in a couple seconds. Whether you cast ED or contagion first doesn't really matter until your ED starts shredding mobs so fast that you can't contagion before the ED mob dies, then you have to start contagion before you throw an ED.
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I dont know if it will be any good but i've got an itch to play trickster winter orb. Can build your power/frenzy stacks by channeling, and compared to other channeling skills you dont primarily deal the damage as you channel so you can still be mobile. So the way i see it Winter orb basically gets 3 out of 3 stars for trickster ascendacy. Channeling, conversion to chaos double dipping and mobility to keep your ghost shrouds up.
Obviously WO got nerfed, but dont think its killed...Its more a question of other skills overtaking it as they got buffed as well..
Can also go fast with queen of the forest and some other gear pieces that dont have to fight it out with ES occultist that i see being the fotm this league, and if WO is bad can still go with something else.
Obviously WO got nerfed, but dont think its killed...Its more a question of other skills overtaking it as they got buffed as well..
Can also go fast with queen of the forest and some other gear pieces that dont have to fight it out with ES occultist that i see being the fotm this league, and if WO is bad can still go with something else.
Just getting yas warmed up. Stupid meme still doesn't make sense to me.
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zombiewizardhawk
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BV got nerfed hard. ED looks like a fairly significant damage increase. GC got nerfed decently, wonder how much it will impact miners. Too lazy to do the math on hatred, not sure if it's supposed to be a buff or nerf. Shockwave totems got a big buff. Spark might be a big buff? Winter orb nerf, altho not as big as the BV nerf.
Enchantments (such as those found from the Labyrinth) now have their own mod slot on items. They no longer use the Implicit mod slot. Seems silly.
Crafting Unlocks from the prophecies related to members of the Pale Court as well as the unlock from The Pale Court encounter can now be used up to 6 times. God damn they must really be salty that nobody likes those shit ass prophecy chains to not only put the meta enchants on them but now to force you to potentially do them multiple times per league.
66% reduced effect of curses on shaper/elder/guardians instead of 80%? Not impressed, still won't bother trying to force curses into builds.
Soulrend: Release a projectile that moves towards and passes through enemies, dealing chaos damage to enemies it hits and leeching a portion of that damage as Energy Shield. This projectile also applies a short-duration damage over time effect to enemies around its path Well that sounds different than it sounded in the preview, and doesn't seem like it would be complementary of ED at all. I guess if the numbers are huge then it might be worth using gem slots to spam this in between ED on bosses instead of just spamming ED's for the hit damage. Maybe.
Enchantments (such as those found from the Labyrinth) now have their own mod slot on items. They no longer use the Implicit mod slot. Seems silly.
Crafting Unlocks from the prophecies related to members of the Pale Court as well as the unlock from The Pale Court encounter can now be used up to 6 times. God damn they must really be salty that nobody likes those shit ass prophecy chains to not only put the meta enchants on them but now to force you to potentially do them multiple times per league.
66% reduced effect of curses on shaper/elder/guardians instead of 80%? Not impressed, still won't bother trying to force curses into builds.
Soulrend: Release a projectile that moves towards and passes through enemies, dealing chaos damage to enemies it hits and leeching a portion of that damage as Energy Shield. This projectile also applies a short-duration damage over time effect to enemies around its path Well that sounds different than it sounded in the preview, and doesn't seem like it would be complementary of ED at all. I guess if the numbers are huge then it might be worth using gem slots to spam this in between ED on bosses instead of just spamming ED's for the hit damage. Maybe.
zombiewizardhawk
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Oh, I didn't think about that. That actually makes more sense than being able to use the craft 6 times. I haven't grouped since before leagues were a thing, unless it was to share a unique map or buy/give a carry on a map, so i'm gonna blame that for my rush to judgement!
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BV got nerfed but it might also be less shit to play with the new Unleash support. Basically, cast once, get 4 blades, run around a bunch, cast once, get 4 blades etc. That sounds pretty good for mapping QoL.
Curious how unleash will work with echo too, wether it just adds one cast per charge to the 2 echo cast, or actually repeat the echo which would create a fuckton of casts in a row.
Want to see the details on Unleash since it looks pretty good for a lot of the more tedious builds to play(SRS for example), at least for general mapping. For boss you'll still want to manual cast everything I think since the loss of a support is too big.
I'll probably be going for some sort of summoner again as usual, there's some interesting new things, kinda.
Curious how unleash will work with echo too, wether it just adds one cast per charge to the 2 echo cast, or actually repeat the echo which would create a fuckton of casts in a row.
Want to see the details on Unleash since it looks pretty good for a lot of the more tedious builds to play(SRS for example), at least for general mapping. For boss you'll still want to manual cast everything I think since the loss of a support is too big.
I'll probably be going for some sort of summoner again as usual, there's some interesting new things, kinda.
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It's a recipe unique, made from a Soul Taker(keep attacking without mana axe) and Heartbreaker(spell culling dagger). As far as I remember, the 2 are not very rare but not the most common either. Data for last league was 10c for a Soul Taker(which used to be a good weap for dom blow but probably not nearly as good anymore after the changes) and less than 1c for heartbreaker. Obviously prices will go up after the changes, but maybe not that high.
zombiewizardhawk
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Kingmaker = heartbreaker + soul taker. Not super common drops but up until this league they've been pretty cheap (altho I think soul taker started going up in price last couple leagues). Last time I looked at kingmaker was maybe in beastiary league and it was like a 25c unique, maybe less.
Edit: If soul taker was 10c last league it must've been a price spike when I was looking at it (either still fairly rare or someone made a build with one) cause I think it was like 50-75 but I didn't end up listing it cause I wasn't poor at that point.
Edit: If soul taker was 10c last league it must've been a price spike when I was looking at it (either still fairly rare or someone made a build with one) cause I think it was like 50-75 but I didn't end up listing it cause I wasn't poor at that point.