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Caliane

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Pyros said:
Biggest concern so far I have with AW is the mana cost. It's high(not retarded like live, but still), and you kinda want to reserve a lot cause so many good auras. I think for mapping it won't be so bad since you can "ramp up" but for bosses it's gonna be quite messy to summon 15+weapons(assuming it keeps scaling but even if not 14) when you need 2secs of mana regen per summon. The mace is going to be a big must have for this shit, but it's going to be expensive as all fuck since it's super rare(tempest league item).

Could use Chains of Command but you're capped at lvl 20(when without you'll probably get like lvl 25+, maybe more depending on how you build and how the scaling goes) and it has its own quirks with writhing jars and all that shit. Spellslinger would require too much mana and between the support and the lack of auras I doubt it'll be that good, leaves hmm, maybe that bow that summons minions, although that requires a somewhat complex setup(probably need to run ele with ele focus to prevent dots, since phys would have vuln bleeds).

I'm not 100% convinced how I'm gonna fix the issue so far, just kinda seeing how it'll go. I guess EB could be an option, although it's kinda expensive to get. So far I've replaced Multistrike by Deathmark and have gotten some mana cost reduction stuff so it costs "only" 33mana, which is nice enough. Maybe a -15 body could help too, but that shit's gonna be costly.
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Another element I was looking at is the "lingering blades" are apparently glass shanks.. which means chains of command is still going to be the "required" build item for AW. so you can animate unique weapons, with MUCH better base stats.
 
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Blade blast combo is actually harder to build than I thought, it's physical damage, but since Archmage adds lightning damage you want to convert to elemental and use elemental overload. However, there's no good way to do that without wasting a ton of links and/or points on zero dps. With 4000 mana most of your damage is lightning, so phys to lightning is basically a wasted link. Avatar of Fire obviously doesn't work and there doesn't seem to be anything else.
 
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Caliane said:
Another element I was looking at is the "lingering blades" are apparently glass shanks.. which means chains of command is still going to be the "required" build item for AW. so you can animate unique weapons, with MUCH better base stats.
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Oh no that doesn't matter, because the gem has a special bonus for lingering blades that makes them into the best daggers in the game(and probably the best 1H melee weapons in the game), with a base damage of 23-90 and speed of 1.5(Sai is 22-88 with a speed of 1.35 for comparison). And it probably keeps scaling past 20 too, so basically you WANT to reanimate lingering blades unless you find some 2H stuff. Obviously, Chains of Command has still the advantage of using say a unique weapon with much higher damage on it, but don't know how it'll compare to lvl 29 gem with dual cold iron points and necro for example. You also lose Carrion Golem and while it was woefully unimpressive in my previous summoner build, it seems to add a shit ton of damage to AW(pob says it adds 27% DPS currently in my build)
 
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Caliane

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Oh no that doesn't matter, because the gem has a special bonus for lingering blades that makes them into the best daggers in the game(and probably the best 1H melee weapons in the game), with a base damage of 23-90 and speed of 1.5(Sai is 22-88 with a speed of 1.35 for comparison). And it probably keeps scaling past 20 too, so basically you WANT to reanimate lingering blades unless you find some 2H stuff. Obviously, Chains of Command has still the advantage of using say a unique weapon with much higher damage on it, but don't know how it'll compare to lvl 29 gem with dual cold iron points and necro for example. You also lose Carrion Golem and while it was woefully unimpressive in my previous summoner build, it seems to add a shit ton of damage to AW(pob says it adds 27% DPS currently in my build)
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oh, yeap. my bad again. I wasnt looking at the skillgem, I was looking at the patch notes. I hadn't noted the AW has extra added phys damage specifically for Lingering blades.

seems most chains of command use Oro's sacrifice btw. thats the comparison. frenzy, culling strike. ignite. ton of added fire damage.
 
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Yeah the Oro fire build is pretty common and most of the chains of command builds I've seen use it, but we don't have concrete numbers on +lvl past 20, I kinda expect the scaling will be a bit crazy with 28-29, and if they keep scaling the cap it'll also be just a bunch more weapons compared to chains. Lack of golem doesn't hurt as bad for the ele builds but for phys with impale it's a huge amount(although I wonder if pob is fucking up something since it seems weird). Lack of spectres mean no power charges either, you do get frenzy from oro but power charges add about 10% more damage too. You also have to run some shenanigan shit on AG(infernal legion and enough regen so it doesn't die to it), and then some writhing jars so it's a lot more annoying to setup I think.

I'll probably try it once I have some currency to burn, it's not that much but I don't want to start with relying on a bunch of uniques.
 
ronne

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The more I think about it the more I probably shouldn't start melee again. It's just so fucking clunky to start out, getting stuck waiting for weapons etc.

New stuff looks too complicated for me to fuck with, so probably do something nice and save like divine ire inquisitor?

Has anyone played that frostbolt+ice nova build? It looks kinda cool but I kinda feel like I'll get carpal tunnel trying to play it between all the buttons+focus that is has to use?
 
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I don't think focus is required for ice nova and fb. Basically, it's very similar to any other 1-2 build. ED/Contagion, mines, etc.
 
Caeden

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So the using EK with totems - it says it leaves 50% fewer blades behind if not self casted. What the fuck does “fewer” really mean a la less/reduced?

My vision was a 4 link, or maybe 5L with shaper gloves(?) blade blast like a detonate while totems spit out blades. May still work.
 
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You guys nearly got Cyclone nerfed, you're talking about playing it too much.



Say you're going to league start with dual strike or something.
 
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This league is going to be packed full of people who should be working from home and is gonna say fuck it and play games instead. Can't wait!
 
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This league is going to be packed full of people who should be working from home and is gonna say fuck it and play games instead. Can't wait!
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Yeah the queue on Friday may be unbearable, and continue for a lot longer than previousleagues.
 
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Sunday evening start here i come. Stupid RL fucking with my off the charts motivation to go ham.
 
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Penance

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Me and some friends from the guild are doing a private league. PM me for details. No handicaps softcore.
 
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So theres basically no need to bother about shaping your atlas any more. If you favorite one t14 15 and 16 from different regions (so you can give each 30x multi).. i'm just guessing but around half or so of the maps should be those 3. If even thats not good enough you can just run on A6 or 7 (to cut the down on the available maps even more) and your odds go up even more.

They tweet that its subject to change though.

edit: also cool

 
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Deathwing

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I'm glad they're being responsive to player feedback. I'm still not sure this is better than shaping your atlas though.
 
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I'm gonna be real ignorant this league I think and start bladestorm berserker with some warcry nonsense I think.

When that fails probably finally try storm brand lol.
 
Pyros

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Deathwing said:
I'm glad they're being responsive to player feedback. I'm still not sure this is better than shaping your atlas though.
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I'd say it's worse if you just want to run one map over and over, but it's better in terms of how it integrates and makes more "sense" than having to remove maps out of your atlas and shit. You're looking at like 60-80% chance to get the map you favorited 3times depending on how many other maps at in the tier and you can still tweak to an extent by removing 1watchstone from certain region with minimal loss unlike before(can remove 3 and only lose 1 awakening level).

If you really have a 1map run plan though, like div card farming stuff, you can still choose not to complete the atlas competing maps. Can't go back if you fuck it up though but say you fuck it up and unlock one map, you'd have a 97% chance to drop it favorited anyway so not a big deal as long as you don't fuck up too many times.
 
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