Shmoopy
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Pathfinder: Kingmaker
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Gavinmad
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iirc pathfinder rewarded sticking with a class with more bonuses that scaled based on your class level. Some degree of multi-classing was almost always more optimal from a pure min-maxing standpoint, but single-classed characters were at less of a disadvantage in pathfinder.
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yeah dipping into a few levels of other classes will most likely be worth it on the whole, except maybe for pure casters.
the game definitely gets easier as you get higher level until you hit the house at the edge of time, where the game ramps up to the extreme (at least on hard and unfair difficulty) so unless you've built your party really solidly with planning it's going to be a tough slog through hordes of overpowered enemies.
the game definitely gets easier as you get higher level until you hit the house at the edge of time, where the game ramps up to the extreme (at least on hard and unfair difficulty) so unless you've built your party really solidly with planning it's going to be a tough slog through hordes of overpowered enemies.
Urlithani
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Welcome to high level PF1 play. The game devolves into rocket tag and hoping you have the right buffs. In PnP higher levels are a slog as casters get ridiculous.
"I win initiative? I cast Maze on the Wizard."
"The enemy cleric casts Gate, a familiar Marilith steps through from the portal. Varishniki, Baroness of the Mountains of Boiled Infants, Herald of Andirifkhu, glares at you while her six arms twirl deadly rune-covered blades."
"The cleric grabs a rod on his belt and let's out a quickened Blasphemy."
"Since the Marilith was called and not summoned, she summons *rolls dice* 3 Glabrezu and a Nalfeshnee."
Basically it takes 30-60 minutes for a round or two of combat because every caster is throwing out disintegrates, horrid wilting, maze, flesh to stone, feeblemind, project image, walls of force, freedom of movement, miracles, wishes, etc.
I kind of like it and hate it at the same time for PnP but it's a lot of fun in the video game (dear bad guys: have fun running through 2 pit spells, sirocco, ice storm, incendiary cloud, acid fog, and obsidian flow!)
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Kirun
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This scenario is how almost all PnP combat plays out, no matter the system. It isn't really unique to PF.
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the best parts of RPGs are the mid-game, high enough level to actually land hits and fight enemies tougher than basement rats, tough enough to feel like you're actually making an impact in the world, and low enough for things to not get ridiculous.
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Kirun
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Yeah, game is a literal steal at $10. Easily 70+ hours of entertainment for that price.
Can't wait for next week.
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Vorph
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1 week + 3-4 months for them to roll out a couple dozen patches to fix everything that was broken at release.
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Hateyou
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Played this for an hour tonight. I have zero experience with Pathfinder. Holy shit is there a lot to choose from when developing characters lol. Sure I’ll specialize in a weapon...oh there’s 40 types to choose from. Sure I’ll specialize in a magic school, oh there’s 20 and I have no idea what any do.
I’m sure this is awesome for people into pathfinder, I mean the game engine and graphics and story/options in conversations are pretty cool. Is it feasible to just put everyone on auto level and just go with whatever the game tells me to do? I got some character who is a tower shield specialist which made me think “wtf I would never pick that.” Every screen and choice is just so overwhelming idk if I want to keep going lol
I’m sure this is awesome for people into pathfinder, I mean the game engine and graphics and story/options in conversations are pretty cool. Is it feasible to just put everyone on auto level and just go with whatever the game tells me to do? I got some character who is a tower shield specialist which made me think “wtf I would never pick that.” Every screen and choice is just so overwhelming idk if I want to keep going lol
Hatorade
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The auto level up is actually decent, you can also look up builds online there is a bunch.
j00t
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That remains my biggest complaint about kingmaker. I'm very experienced with dnd, and a played a bunch of 3.5, which is what Pathfinder is based off, bit I never played any pathfinder before this.
I would have LOVED some in game player's handbook. Even if it was a truncated version of it. I shouldn't need to go scouring the internet for that kind of stuff, especially since certain stuff in the pnp didn't transfer over to the game identically
I would have LOVED some in game player's handbook. Even if it was a truncated version of it. I shouldn't need to go scouring the internet for that kind of stuff, especially since certain stuff in the pnp didn't transfer over to the game identically
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Burns
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As Hatorade said, auto-level is decent, and should be fine for companions on normal (or below) difficulty.
For your main, I would recommend building yourself, to get the somewhat complicated but not a full on build out the whole party complexity that is needed for the higher 2 difficulties. If you would rather not follow a guide, the auto built party should be able to carry you, if you totally fuck up. You can then respec for free with a mod, once you learn more.
If you want to go with the build guide route (the guy who made this list did a good job getting builds together and giving a rundown of them): HERE
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Grabbit Allworth
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I was a day 1 purchaser of the 1st game and went through all of that crap so I'm a bit apprehensive about the sequel though I'm still going to buy it too on launch day. Hopefully, they've learned from the mistakes that were made in the original game because it did eventually evolve in to the best Iso-RPG ever made.
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Burns
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I learned how to circumvent the bugs with editing the saves in Kingmaker, at release, so will defiantly be playing day 1, regardless. The Wrath beta was stable though, so I should at least get through two thirds of the game before needing to dust off Notepad++.
Urlithani
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In the game the enemy is also stupid and wouldn't do things they would in table top.
You could play a straight up sorcerer/wizard and just saturate a choke point with pit, sirocco, stinking cloud, cloudkill, web, grease...and they'll run right through all of it. Facing a group of 20 mobs? No problem, only 3-4 will make it through at a time.
I think in Wrath though they added flying(?), and demons are immune to electricity and poison, and resistant to fire, acid, cold.
That's my only problem with Pathfinder/D&D in general. I like to play physical classes in tabletop, but in CRPG's arcane casters get all the fun as hell reality warping shit that screws up the mobs. Once I played through with sorcerer in Kingmaker I didn't really have an urge to play again as something else.