Presumed Innocent

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Title: Presumed Innocent

Genre: Drama, Crime, Mystery

First aired: 2024-06-11

Creator: David E. Kelley

Cast: Jake Gyllenhaal, Ruth Negga, Bill Camp, Elizabeth Marvel, Renate Reinsve, Tate Birchmore, Peter Sarsgaard, O.T. Fagbenle, Lily Rabe, Chase Infiniti, Nana Mensah, Matthew Alan, Kingston Rumi Southwick

Overview: A horrific murder upends the Chicago Prosecuting Attorney's Office when one of its own is suspected of the crime—leaving the accused fighting to keep his family together.
 

Kajiimagi

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Another pointless remake. The Harrison Ford version did the book justice. Or useless make anyway , read the book. Stick with it as that writers style takes 50odd pages to get used to. This was actually book 1 in a series based on these people. Cannot remember it now, but I recall they were excellent. Shit now I'm going to have to go dig them out....

EDIT: Scott Turow, Kindle County Series. Looks like 12 books in total. Love me some NZBGeek
 
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Fucker

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Pretty decent show. Actors are killing it. 4 episodes of 8 are up at the usual places.
 
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Ossoi

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This is really good - false accused stuff can irritate me in the same way that the premise of Dark Matter irritated me. But this is something I look forward to
 

Animosity

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This is really good - false accused stuff can irritate me in the same way that the premise of Dark Matter irritated me. But this is something I look forward to
I like that he does nothing to help his case. He looks worse and worse. Puts a good spin on the genre.
 
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Ossoi

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I like that he does nothing to help his case. He looks worse and worse. Puts a good spin on the genre.

What exactly is he meant to do,? Start mowing the local college football field for free?
 
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elidib

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Good acting, sure. I don't really feel like watching it again to see if there were any clues at all about the real killer. Were there? Seemed completely out of left field to me.
 

Ossoi

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Very good series but arguably the finale was the weakest episode of the lot

Does the actor who played the chief DA talk like Bubba (Gump) in everything he is in?
 

Animosity

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Great series. The court case ended how I thought. But didnt expect the twists at the end.
 

Gravel

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Binged the whole thing, which isn't something I normally do. Speaks volumes about it because I was pretty engaged the entire time. Jake crushed it, although he's probably been my favorite actor since that string of movies with Zodiac, End of Watch, and Prisoners. Going back to the Apple thread though, what the fuck Apple? Another show I never even heard about outside of just randomly deciding to read this thread. And it's another solid one.

About the ending though,
at around halfway through episode 3 or 4, I figured it was his wife for sure. Tommy is the obvious red herring, being super unlikeable, jealous, and having a thing for the victim (which they don't spell out until the last episode). I was wavering a bit and just assumed it was someone in his family towards the end, mostly because of the way she was tied up and I figured it'd be that he left the case files around. But the wife still seemed like prime suspect.

It's only been like 30 minutes since I finished, but they really didn't stick the landing. The more I think about it, the worse it gets. Like, for one, apparently the entire fucking family decided to visit Caroline on this one night and somehow with 4 visits (him, son, daughter, him again) they all managed to avoid each other. But then his 2nd visit makes no sense, because I swear they mentioned using his phone to pinpoint when he arrived home ("almost 11pm on the dot" was the line), but wouldn't they have seen a 2nd visit? Did he just randomly leave his phone at home for that one?

Then you get to the whole act. First, they mentioned repeatedly how he avoided getting blood on anything, and yet, he rushes in the house and starts cradling her dead body...and manages to come away clean? Then, where the fuck did he get the gloves and rope to tie her up without leaving any clues? They threw out a quick shot of rope when they raided his house on the warrant, but surely he didn't go home to grab supplies and it was actually 3 trips? I know they made it a point to say that it was generic rope anyone could get, but I imagine they could've gotten a close enough match if it was the same. If not, surely a trip to the hardware store would've popped up on their radar. And then somehow the teenage daughter is crafty enough to clean up her mess in the car without a police team finding a trace of any evidence. A miracle!

All in all, I think they tried to get too cute with the twist. I don't know why writers have such a hard time with it, especially when the rest of the show seemed so well thought out. It almost makes me think it wasn't their original plan, cause they should've accounted for all that stuff to make it believable. The only hint they did was the "the murder seemed like a crime of the moment, and the tying up methodical." I feel like they should've just gone with one twist instead of 3 (accusing the wife, saying he tied her up, and then pivot to the daughter) and it would've made it more manageable.

Edit: Also, holy shit. The guy from this gif (the scrapyard owner) is Brian Ratzer (the guy who gets punched). Seems like mostly a bit part actor, but he's been in a few films with Jake Gyllenhaal.

jake gyllenhaal ok GIF
 
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bigolas

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This show is good but doesn't live up to the hype. 6/10 at best. Many parts were boring and pointless. The surprising twist in the end doesn't magically make it great.
Does the actor who played the chief DA talk like Bubba (Gump) in everything he is in?
He does.
 
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Valderen

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I just finished this, watched it in 2 sitting of 4 episodes each. I rarely do that, says a lot about how much I like this.

The acting for the most is what made the show great to me. The story was good and pacing was awesome, introducing something new evidence almost at the end of each episode making you want to watch so you could see how they would handle it.

The ending wasn’t the person I thought, but close, also a bit of a stretch since there were no hints about it. I think there would have been better choices that would still be somewhat of a shock but made more sense since they had set up so many options.

Still while a bit disappointed by the ending, it’s not like it was bad to ruin the show.

I’m not sure how I feel about another season. This was so personal the murder victim being a friend to prosecution and defense and being the lover of Jake’s character mean that everyone in the show was connected to her somehow all the DA office, the lawyer defending Jake, the medical staff, investigators and all of his family by being involved with her. So a season can’t really do that, so I feel it’s going to just be another lawyer show.

So I’m not super excited for another season but since it was so good I’ll most likely at lest check the reviews.
 

Kajiimagi

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If any of you like this I BEG you to read the book. I watched all the episodes, and shook my head through the entire thing. My wife kept asking me why and I told her I did not want to ruin it for her because I knew the ending. Then I realized they had changed so much it may turn out I killed her. Enjoy it for what it was but if you read the book you'll realize it was too cute for it's own good and a DEI of epic proportions.

*btw I listed all the books earlier in this thread.
 
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