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Vritra and Indra are getting their shitty nerfed ultimates as well.
Blue Odin is getting the attack bonus to blue creatures as well =D
Blue Odin is getting the attack bonus to blue creatures as well =D
Grimmlokk
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Totally forgot he was getting that.
Wonder how far out 5.2 is, that's when we get the added monster types right? Demon/Devil or whatever.
How does your Blue Odin team have high Recovery but your Horus team does not? As you can put all the same gods in your Horus team as you do in your Bodin team. (Making sure to be rainbow is ideal for both Horus and Bodin). Is there something I am missing here? Like a 2x hp / rcv for gods mod? I can see the point about having a 6.25 dmg at ALL times being useful for stalling and sniping rather than having 0x dmg or 16x dmg makes it too hard...
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Horus team: At the moment Horus is only level 50 and Susano is 90. Naga, Viper, and Hades are all 99. Without ally leader this team is sitting at 11511 hp and 2090 RCV. Adding a max Horus ally pushes up up another 3k hp and 500ish rcv.
Odin Team: 16882 hp 2709 recovery. Adding a max blue odin ally (my alt account is max with +55 eggs) I'm looking at another 4500+ hp and 600+ RCV. Not to mention my attack value for all colors is much higher and all colors are covered as a primary attribute.
Constant multiplier bonus with 6500+ hp and 900+ RCV and all primary attributes covered. Odin team wins hands down.
Thengel
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Uh, isn't that simply because YOUR blue odin is better, not because blue odin is actually better? If you took the exact same team and put it on a maxed out horus team with the same +s, the horus team would have higher RCV but lower HP. Odin does have much higher HP when maxed (like 1200 each, so 2400 with your friend) but Horus actually has higher RCV (barely).
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Max level blue odin with no eggs is:
HP: 4281
RCV: 548
Max level Horus:
HP: 3005
RCV: 570
Also the issue is with the subs. For Horus to work properly you need the time freeze subs such as naga and viper. The stats on both of those fucking blow. Susano has fairly crappy stats as well. Hades is a beast with dark/light so he gets a free pass.
With the Odin team the subs I'm running are red/light Minerva, green/dark Ceres, dark/light Hades, and Zeus.
The raw statistical advantage for hp/attack/rcv and the added extra punch of dual specs is very very noticeable.
So this means I'll get a few more stats and an extra 10% attack from Loki friends? This update is marvelous.
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Kind of depends on the fight, I don't think I'd take naga for a horus team in a situation where I wouldn't also use them for an odin team - echinda is necessary for fights where a boss might be multiples on the same timer that can alpha strike you in the first round, for example the tower of jewels that was just on. If you can't kill them reliably in one round with horus, you certainly won't be doing it in one round with blue odin, so you'd need echidna anyway.
I still use Isis or Blue Odin much more often than Horus though, apart from the obvious tri-color shenanigans, I play PAD to relax, and Horus is just too much work.
I think you are overstating the differences in power of the two teams based on how YOU would play them... rather than the actual differences in power of the team...
Having an always on 6.25dmg allows you to stall and snipe more effectively than horus... but the difference in stats should just be 1000 or so HP in favor of blue odin. I wouldnt actually bring echidna and viper on a horus team for difficult content because the team cannot stall well to begin with and dropping your stats to fit in those two subs to try and stall would make it even worse!
So yeah... blue odin is easier to play, but is NOT more capable than horus... in fact I would go so far as to say that there is much more content available to a horus team than to a blue odin team. Not even taking into account that a Horus team can use MANY different subs as long as your hitting rainbow whereas Blue Odin REQUIRES gods to be effective.
Having an always on 6.25dmg allows you to stall and snipe more effectively than horus... but the difference in stats should just be 1000 or so HP in favor of blue odin. I wouldnt actually bring echidna and viper on a horus team for difficult content because the team cannot stall well to begin with and dropping your stats to fit in those two subs to try and stall would make it even worse!
So yeah... blue odin is easier to play, but is NOT more capable than horus... in fact I would go so far as to say that there is much more content available to a horus team than to a blue odin team. Not even taking into account that a Horus team can use MANY different subs as long as your hitting rainbow whereas Blue Odin REQUIRES gods to be effective.
I haven't been through an update yet - I assume we regenerate stamina even when the game is down? Can we ride out the outage while in a dungeon? I'm about to level, and I'll have an hour tops after I get home to burn two bars of stamina, so I'm hoping I can start something like Master Legendary Dark and just regen to full so I can have the xp when we're live again. If I have to go with a Siren partner, I may not be done in time.
Okay, so 5.70 on the tablet and 4.05 on the phone, so around a second and a half difference between the two. Around 40% more time to work with on the tablet.
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Grimmlokk
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Sooo, we could start a bunch of programs to choke the memory/cpu on our device and get a fake Yomi effect all the time? Someone test it!
Grimmlokk
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Possibly, I was mostly thinking like how in some flash games that run slow you are basically playing in slow motion. Where it's sometimes an advantage if your PC is chugging trying to play it because you get more time.
edit: So got my Freyr leveled and evolved, and just looked and I have the mats to Ultimate Evo him tomorrow too. Good shit.
edit 2: Apparently the new monster types(Demon and devil?) and monsters with dual types will be going in with 5.1.