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Grimmlokk

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Damage calculator.

Think you guys are underestimating a 30 orb combo's power.


edit: Also can anyone help me with how Enhanced Orbs work? With a full screen it's 2.8x, is it just straight additive up to that based on how many orbs you match? Like, is it .1 for the first 3 orbs and then .1 more for each individual orb after that?
 

Grimmlokk

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I thought it was just a straight 20% damage increase.
Nope. Whenever you get a combo with enhanced orbs in it you get a multiplier thing on the combo like when you trigger Isis/Horus/Ra etc abilities. And it varies based on how many orbs, I'm just not totally clear exactly how the math goes on it and have never tried to really figure it out. I think my theory above has legs though=). Next time I use it I'll try and keep track better.

To be clear, I'm referring to Enhanced Fire(etc) Orbs, like Horus' activated ability. Not Flame(etc) Enhancement like Freyr. The latter is just a straight 1.5x.
 

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Nope. Whenever you get a combo with enhanced orbs in it you get a multiplier thing on the combo like when you trigger Isis/Horus/Ra etc abilities. And it varies based on how many orbs, I'm just not totally clear exactly how the math goes on it and have never tried to really figure it out. I think my theory above has legs though=). Next time I use it I'll try and keep track better.

To be clear, I'm referring to Enhanced Fire(etc) Orbs, like Horus' activated ability. Not Flame(etc) Enhancement like Freyr. The latter is just a straight 1.5x.
Yeah, I was too. I've only noticed when I get 3 it shows 1.2x.
 

Grimmlokk

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Yeah, I was too. I've only noticed when I get 3 it shows 1.2x.
When you get a full screen it's 2.8x. I'm just not sure on the math. Anecdotal evidence: I'd always tried making as many combos as possible after using Ares to give me reds, recently I decided to try just getting as many reds in one combo as possible. Get 2.something multiplier usually and it SEEMS to be giving me bigger hits that first pop. 200-400K from Ares himself somewhat reliably. This is with Freyr as well.
 

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Well, for farming on master, I've got a pretty solid team, and I've noticed a few things about it.

So, my team is Dark/Dark Hades, Ancient Light, Holy Ripper, Gr. Odin, ADK. From there, I can pair with Abyss Neptune, Gr Odin, or Another Hades and complete the dungeon absolutely no problem at all. Each has their pros and cons, Neptune is obviously only good for the Chimaera and Lilith, where he does a pretty good job of helping burn those shitheads down, especially since you're doing it with no damage multiplier. Hades means double Gravity and that means fuck you, 1.6 million boss HP, which is awesome. Green Odin also does light damage on his nuke, so that's excellent as well. Also, I've noticed that the "Light Bind" effect comes up FAR more often if I have a Light/Dark Hades in that friend slot...apparently 3 is the magic number of guys on your team where they start saying "Fuck you" more often. Run less than that, and the effect rarely comes up. I still get double bound, but not light bound. In addition, Lilith converts Light to Block at a far lower rate as well...maybe once a fight if I have 2 lights, and every other turn if I don't.

Green Odin also makes the boss fights stupid survivable. Match hearts every turn and you win. Boss hits for something like 900 if you have another resist lead and he's not doing his curse ball. You could be running 4 gigas subs and heal that. He's kind of inferior if the chims are synced, and you need to pay attention to turn timers on the waves more, but he's pretty solid, and if you can't do it with just 50% dark, try that out in your friends spot, and you might be able to manage it.

All in all, I must retract my statement. I've basically been running master non stop since I figured it out about 48 hours ago. I level up every 3 runs or so, and while the dungeon itself does take a good hour to do, i've gotta sleep, and work, so it's not like I'm waiting on stamina. I'm not gonna be burning stones on it, so this is as fast as I can run it anyway.
 

Ishad

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From the mono red guide on p&d forums about enhanced.

" Last but not least: The question most players seem to ask, (even I did), "Is Horus (Phoenix) or Freyr a must have for a Goemon Team?" The main difference is the burst skill they provide.

7.75*25 - 193.75x is the basic multiplier when you use Goemon skill and change whole screen into fire orbs

7.75*25*1.5 - 290.625x is the multiplier when you use Freyr skill

7.75*25*2.8 - 542.5 Makes Horus stand out on top (haven't seen a boss that can survive this, unless your atk is too low)

7.75*25*2.8*1.5 - 813.75 is the multiplier when you do Freyr+Horus, This one is a total over kill for sure o_O"
 

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Okay so 7.75 is the full screen multiplier. That jives with earlier when a full screen combo with no cascade gave me 8800 atk on the Artemis (1100'ish x 7.75). That just doesn't seem as good as if I can do 2x three orb green matches, plus a red, plus a white. It's all in my head I'm sure, like my brain wants to think of a whole screen green clear as 6 x 5 orb combos (which would be 22k * Artemis * Parvati vs. one 30 combo), and it just isn't how the game is coded.
 

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This is just copied and pasted


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Only getting dungeons for 24 hours sucks.
 

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I don't even look at that list as events.

This is a list of weekly dungeons at this point. Breakers and knights again...yay.
 

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happy naga is around. I'm seriously going to try and max skill 3 of them. Hello stones. I can't wait for the next event to only have mystic knights and breakers, and have a new dungeon where you can get himura and kamui.
 

Wocket_sl

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This is why we get 24 hour bullshit.
Yeah, I'm going to be sad to probably not max skill my Enchilada, but i'm with you here. Reqwarding them for having two decently good days out of the entire event - convienantly located on the weekend, when we can have more time to burn stones in - just can't do it.

Of course, that may just mean I end up giving them more stones later because Menace wasn't up. They've kind of got me over a barrel.

Also, I feel for those who have been playing much longer than me and need new endgame dungeons to run. These knight dungeons are getting old for me, and I feel like I've barely begun.
 
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I'll keep taking the CDK Dungeon over and over until I finally start getting some drops from it. Last time I had 2 drops using every available bit of stamina from the moment it popped until it disappeared. I want to assume that the Naga dungeon will have the same drop rate as the Knight Dungeons, which means I'll be lucky to get a skill up at all. I'm just happy to have the 2X Kings and Super Metal pop up again so quickly after the last batch. It seems like we're only going 1-2 weeks between events lately (even if they are just repeats of the same dungeons we get all the damn time).

Being someone that hasn't spent money on this game, I'll take all the free daily stones they can throw at me.
 

Grimmlokk

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Finished black ancient Legendary with Shiva/Noel dragon. Burned a stone when a 9 combo left me with 1 heal orb, then a 7 dropped 1 more on the opposite side. Curse Ball kill. He was like 10% so I said fuck it.

Then the same thing happened with him under 1%...fuck me. Wasted stone just to not have to do that fucker again. Net loss of one stone, gain 1 more dragon I'll never fucking use. I'm too impatient.

Much as I'd love to get the 4 more points to max my Echidna I have no delusions that it will actually cooperate.



edit: BTW JP side is getting en event about the same time for 14mil downloads. They get the 1 day dungeon stuff as well. Except theirs includes Satan, Hera-Is, Goemon, and whatever the fuck Survey Dungeon is.
 

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Finished black ancient Legendary with Shiva/Noel dragon. Burned a stone when a 9 combo left me with 1 heal orb, then a 7 dropped 1 more on the opposite side. Curse Ball kill. He was like 10% so I said fuck it.

Then the same thing happened with him under 1%...fuck me. Wasted stone just to not have to do that fucker again. Net loss of one stone, gain 1 more dragon I'll never fucking use. I'm too impatient.

Much as I'd love to get the 4 more points to max my Echidna I have no delusions that it will actually cooperate.



edit: BTW JP side is getting en event about the same time for 14mil downloads. They get the 1 day dungeon stuff as well. Except theirs includes Satan, Hera-Is, Goemon, and whatever the fuck Survey Dungeon is.
That's the point though: they get two weeks of the Mystic Fire Knight dungeon, but one day of Ice Hera, Goemon, etc. We get 1 day of breakers, ADK, CDK, Naga, and Hera. Not even Zeus is showing up. No mention of Ice-Hera, Goemon, or Zeus Dio.
 

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Did Legend Ancient Dark with the Hades team, the only part I was sweating was the fucking angel, and I won't be doing it again until I put on about 5k more HP, that's for sure. She hit for more than half my HP, so I had to heal every turn to deal with her. I had planned on saving echidna to try to stop the heal, but when I'm 1 hit from death and staring at a screen with 1 heart on it, I had no choice but to burn it. Ended up getting insanely lucky and pulled a couple of mid-teens combos and managed to burn thru her last half of her HP in 4 turns before she healed, which would have been almost certain death before I killed her.

Boss was a fucking joke, no issue. The funny thing is that with dual Hades, he took no longer than Master, despite having almost 2 million more HP.