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Df~_sl

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Well, I have 0 stoned all descends on US and JP so far... and my egg count on my descend team on JP is +4.. plus whatever the helper has... and my US count is a big higher, but less than 20 on my descend teams..

But i think my daily pal points are limited by people not seeing a big +XXX on a farmable leader..
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+199 on horus doesnt get me many points daily
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Ao-

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Sea God is the best stage for +egg farming, so I wouldn't do anything that disrupts farming that. I'm building up my 9x mono-green balance team just for that.
 

Man0warr

Molten Core Raider
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Finally got a Highlander, with my B/D Neptun/Siren/A Hera/A Hera/Keeper team. Now I can use these 20 green drop things to power level/power skill it and free up some space finally.
 

Antarius

Lord Nagafen Raider
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120 bucks worth of stones (plus more saved)...

Most wtf rolls EVER

2 naga (1 skillup, so I'm ok with that Echidna rank 4 now)
3 GOdins (I already had 2, so now I have 5)
4 mermaids (I already have 2 max skilled, and a max skilled megalodan)
4 Succubus
4 Amons
2 Baal
6 Belials (I already had 1, 7 total now)
3 elementals (red, blue, green)
2 guadians
2 armor breakers
4 verches (no skillups, my verche is skill level 1)
3 ADK (1 of which is the 5 star version, so I kept that one even though I have a max skilled 4 star version, to save for awaken)
3 toy dragons (pierdrawn skillup and parvati skillup, so not bad there)
2 Red Jap 2.0 (worthless)
1 Blue Chinese god
1 Susano (I already had 2)
3 Okunushi (jp2.0 dark, I don't know whether I should keep 2 or just the 1)


I was looking for JP2.0 Light, JP2.0 Green, Astaroth, Dark Metatron, Odins and pretty much anything from Floral carnival, since I plan on running Green team majorly now that I have pretty much every single green sub and leader, and was just looking for awakens

Overall, very disappointed, 5 Godin, 0 Bodins
 

Antarius

Lord Nagafen Raider
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Decided to roll a few more times.

Flare Drall
toytops
Amon (lol)
Belial (lol)
Baal (lol)
Bodin
2 more Verche (1 skillup, now rank 2)
Izanagi
Hatsume


Sigh 180 bucks and no astaroth or dark meta, guess I'll be able to run 9x god no problem now though. And Bodin would be nice if I wanted to run a 27x physical team

rolled 4 more times... gryps rider and dark metatron... ok, I'm definitely done now.
 

Ishad

Ahn'Qiraj Raider
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10 rolls for a hatsume, Dino rider, and fa lucifer. Extraordinarily painful considering how long it took me to bank those.
 

Dyvim

Bronze Knight of the Realm
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5 rolls for a drall, mandrake, sylph, vampire and *drumroll* Thor ya really big whoop godfest.
Srsyl fuck that shit.
 

Intrinsic

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Going to see how easy this Satan dungeon is with my Valk, King Shynee, Siren, Venus, Echidna, Valk. The other suggested build had a Parvati so I can try that one too afterwards.
 

Ao-

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Took Kirin team out. 2 turns before Kraken killed me. Womp womp.


4 rolls:
J2 Red
Vampire (lvl4)
lvl 30 Cu Chu +rcv
lvl 30 Parv (#3)


Not sure if I want to roll again or not...
 

Raign

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I ran a bit different team for Satan that worked pretty well. Valk, Zeus, Minerva, Raph, Siren, Valk. Trades off having a couple of off-color 9Xs for having a full board amplified white and 35% gravity. Pretty much obliterated Satan but the vamps cost me 3 stones (should have been 1 but I screwed up twice -- once I messed up my heart alignment and once I ate 2 strikes in a row when I should have finished one of but choked on the combine).

Dropped a few stones as well, aside from the more common crap, got:
- Japanese red god
- Japanese dark god (this one actually looks pretty solid)
- Fuma Kataro #3 (Huzzah?)
- Beast Rider #2
- [Edit] Forgot I got a Amon too... woot? At least I did not have that one before..
 

Intrinsic

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Yeah I got by Kraken without any real difficulty with my Healer girls + Parv. Think it heavily depends on whether you get lucky and he doesn't use triple attack so that you can survive one round if needed. Cerberus was an accidental one shot, wanted to delay his turns to build up Valk, Parv, and Siren abilities. Lilith is what really surprised me. Need to try again later and get that extra delay turn in on Cerberus, then pretty sure I can one shot her. Then refresh them on Hades.... anyways, willing to blow a few stones here to get Satan if needed since I'm probably not rolling anything in REM this go round.
 

Raign

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Hmm, I had not really looked at the new Japanese gods -- the light and green gods are pretty awesome... now I am tempted to buy more stones....
 

Araex_sl

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I had a bunch of stones saved up and was planning to wait for the next Egyptian godfest (I don't have any) because I think they are slightly better than the new Japanese/Chinese ones.

So I decided to just do one pull, and then only keep going if there is a god streak.


BAM, blue Jap 2.0.
And then a Lilith.

Finally got lucky at the REM lol.
 

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I know there are some different conventions around rolling with the REM around, but I can tell you now from having just dropped more money on this thing that waiting much longer than a minute is required. What it looks like to me, is that after some period of time you are placed into a grouping which contains MAYBE 10 different monsters in it. Of which a half dozen are super rares, the rest are very and rare.

The most common suggestion I have seen is that if you get junk, wait a minute and roll again.. if you hit super rare, roll again immediately. This does appear to work, but only within the limited grouping of monsters you have be put into. As an example:

I just did a bunch of rolls all within the same 30 minute time span, and got:

- 5 Succubus (of 2 varying rarities)
- 6 Wood golems (of all 3 rarities)
- 3 vampires (of 2 rarities)
- 2 cupids (of same rarity)
- 2 surf riders

Statistically speaking, given that was all I got in the 30 minute window, that is winning the lotto and then getting struck by lightning on the way to the store to cash it in given the total pool size. Based on this, I would contend it works more like this:
* For a period of time (lets call it an hour for arguments sake) you draw from a small pool of different monsters (say 10ish)
* Once you roll, it is either a creature that can be evolved, in which case there is a supplemental rarity roll, or one that cannot
* By rapidly re-rolling after getting a result you increase the chances of the same result so 'cooling down' after a bad roll does help but ultimately until your 1 hour timer is 'up' and you move to a different pool, you will still be within the same small subset

Morale of the story is though, if you roll a few times in the same hour, and keep getting repeats or crap, you are probably better off stopping for a good piece of time and trying again later.

This might be wrong, or it might already be common knowledge, it was just 'news' to me so thought I would share.
 

Intrinsic

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I agree and think everyone has had the same opinion which as you point out is where the wait 1 minute rule came from. That initial roll gives you a seed, and that seed determines the pool in which you're drawing from. Some pools are more shitty than others, but it really is the only explanation that makes sense as to why you are continually getting repeats of the same trash within the same roll window. Now how long it takes you to get a new seed is anyone's guess. 1 minute has been successful in the past for me and is typically the rule I follow. But who knows, if your pool has 10 monsters, 8 of which are 5* and 2 are Cupids, you could still screw yourself by rolling a cupid on the come and stopping.

The worst part is all this talk about gambling has made me want to roll. This is worse than watching Mad Men and wanting to chain smoke a pack of Lucky Strike unfiltered.
 

Antarius

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yea, I didn't do a lot of waiting... I guess that explains the insane number of amons, belials and Godins I received.

Rolled a few more times... gryps rider, dark metatron. w00t w00t.
 

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Fuck you, lol. Been doing about 6 rolls over the last hour and half. Three first roll JP Gods (red, black, black) followed by three silver (cupid, sylf, can't remember) and stop.

Oh just looked I lied, was two silver, got another SoD luci
 

Df~_sl

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JAP2.0 Gods:

As leader/sub
Black = Awesome/ok
Nice dmg multiplier for combos... (anubis light). Great stats (but no RCV). One turn delay is useful especially on dark teams.

Light = Medoicre/Situational
The dmg mod has a caveat.. 3x doesnt. The stats are meh and the active skill is OK,
Red = POOP/POOP
Yes... as if Red even has RCV... multiplying nothing by 1.5 is still... Nothing.
Blue = Good (5x for good color combos!) / Ok
Kirin for Blue! Nice mix of colors. Decent orb change active
Green = Great / good
Anubis like... but can use on weekend dungeon too! Doesnt screw you over for only getting a 9 combo! Active skill is on low cooldown, yay.

Just max awokened my green odin...




I noticed an interesting sort option... "Fuse" it lists things by how many times you have fused the card...

Lowest amount of fuses for max lvl monster: 44 - SoD Luci
Highest amount for NON max lvl monster: 100 - Chu Chu (lvl 84 but skill maxxed)

Interestingly... I have more +eggs on JP side... less days played but I have no max lvl monsters there. I leave monsters once I get them above lvl 90. Currently have 19 between 90-99

Some other interesting things from my fuse list...
It took 5 fuses to get 6 skill ups on my shardran. I specifically ONLY fused him using 5 marine goblins at a time and havent touched him since. so 6/25 on skill ups for him. Nice
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