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Quantum Leap
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Qhue
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Watched the first episode and its very much Quantum Leap complete with Ziggy having an incomplete batch of information to work from. Clearly they will be doing a lot more with the '2022' part of the story and the people trying to solve the mystery on that end, but I'm okay with that.
Im guessing all the Ziggy update code he loaded actually came from a leap back to 2022 from some unknown future state, but it could be any number of things.
It is a bit distracting to see Desire being nice.
Im guessing all the Ziggy update code he loaded actually came from a leap back to 2022 from some unknown future state, but it could be any number of things.
It is a bit distracting to see Desire being nice.
Zindan
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moonarchia
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I just watched it as well--
I am sad that there is such an overwhelming lack of creativity that so much of new movies/tv/fiction/media has to be re-imaging/re-imagining of past material.
And, if you are going to do this, don't do it with IPs that are as revered as Quantum Leap. Let's face it, there is no one who watched the original in its day and did not fall for Scott Bakula's charisma and the overall charm of the show. And probably cried a few times too...
As to it's wokeness-- yeah, but it was not at all like today's wokeness. It took an internally consistent view of American History and constructed a ton of beautiful narratives based on it. From living through the 80's, portraying the stuggles of black men/women, gay people, and other race and gender issues from a perspective of empathy worked. Jim Crow laws happened, women's liberation happened, the cold war ideology infiltrated American culture. It all happened--but of course, history cannot be portrayed in an unbiased fashion. Impossible. So, for its time it was contemplative . It served as it's own course in American Studies as seen through its (very talented) creators. I, for one, cannot begrudge the original series for what it did/was. It was great.
That's not how wokeness is done in the media any longer. It doesn't portray socio-economic, political or gender issues (etc) in any way that encourages empathy, discussion, thoughtfulness or contemplative discussion. It's pedantic, forced, and in the imperative. All the horrors and propaganda of the media that we, as Americans, were concerned were occurring in Nazi Germany, the Middle East and Russia (then and now) are happening RIGHT NOW in our media.
The world as portrayed in most main stream media is a world of propagandist fiction that does not encourage a culture of inquiry. It formulates a false narrative of the present. The original series did not do this. You could form a college level seminar on some of the old Quantum Leap episodes.
That being said, episode #1 was inoffensive and vanilla. It seems like there will be less learning about social, societal, historical controversies and more finding out about the bullshit science of Quantum Leap. It was mildly entertaining. To the creative team of the new series I ask:
I am sad that there is such an overwhelming lack of creativity that so much of new movies/tv/fiction/media has to be re-imaging/re-imagining of past material.
And, if you are going to do this, don't do it with IPs that are as revered as Quantum Leap. Let's face it, there is no one who watched the original in its day and did not fall for Scott Bakula's charisma and the overall charm of the show. And probably cried a few times too...
As to it's wokeness-- yeah, but it was not at all like today's wokeness. It took an internally consistent view of American History and constructed a ton of beautiful narratives based on it. From living through the 80's, portraying the stuggles of black men/women, gay people, and other race and gender issues from a perspective of empathy worked. Jim Crow laws happened, women's liberation happened, the cold war ideology infiltrated American culture. It all happened--but of course, history cannot be portrayed in an unbiased fashion. Impossible. So, for its time it was contemplative . It served as it's own course in American Studies as seen through its (very talented) creators. I, for one, cannot begrudge the original series for what it did/was. It was great.
That's not how wokeness is done in the media any longer. It doesn't portray socio-economic, political or gender issues (etc) in any way that encourages empathy, discussion, thoughtfulness or contemplative discussion. It's pedantic, forced, and in the imperative. All the horrors and propaganda of the media that we, as Americans, were concerned were occurring in Nazi Germany, the Middle East and Russia (then and now) are happening RIGHT NOW in our media.
The world as portrayed in most main stream media is a world of propagandist fiction that does not encourage a culture of inquiry. It formulates a false narrative of the present. The original series did not do this. You could form a college level seminar on some of the old Quantum Leap episodes.
That being said, episode #1 was inoffensive and vanilla. It seems like there will be less learning about social, societal, historical controversies and more finding out about the bullshit science of Quantum Leap. It was mildly entertaining. To the creative team of the new series I ask:
Your producers were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should.
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Rajaah
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I just watched it as well--
I am sad that there is such an overwhelming lack of creativity that so much of new movies/tv/fiction/media has to be re-imaging/re-imagining of past material.
And, if you are going to do this, don't do it with IPs that are as revered as Quantum Leap. Let's face it, there is no one who watched the original in its day and did not fall for Scott Bakula's charisma and the overall charm of the show. And probably cried a few times too...
As to it's wokeness-- yeah, but it was not at all like today's wokeness. It took an internally consistent view of American History and constructed a ton of beautiful narratives based on it. From living through the 80's, portraying the stuggles of black men/women, gay people, and other race and gender issues from a perspective of empathy worked. Jim Crow laws happened, women's liberation happened, the cold war ideology infiltrated American culture. It all happened--but of course, history cannot be portrayed in an unbiased fashion. Impossible. So, for its time it was contemplative . It served as it's own course in American Studies as seen through its (very talented) creators. I, for one, cannot begrudge the original series for what it did/was. It was great.
That's not how wokeness is done in the media any longer. It doesn't portray socio-economic, political or gender issues (etc) in any way that encourages empathy, discussion, thoughtfulness or contemplative discussion. It's pedantic, forced, and in the imperative. All the horrors and propaganda of the media that we, as Americans, were concerned were occurring in Nazi Germany, the Middle East and Russia (then and now) are happening RIGHT NOW in our media.
The world as portrayed in most main stream media is a world of propagandist fiction that does not encourage a culture of inquiry. It formulates a false narrative of the present. The original series did not do this. You could form a college level seminar on some of the old Quantum Leap episodes.
That being said, episode #1 was inoffensive and vanilla. It seems like there will be less learning about social, societal, historical controversies and more finding out about the bullshit science of Quantum Leap. It was mildly entertaining. To the creative team of the new series I ask:
Your producers were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should.
Well said.
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j00t
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while i agree with you 100%, i wonder how much of that could be seen from the first episode. i watched quantum leap religiously (i was even such a fan that i really liked the evil leaper stuff), but i haven't ever re-watched any of it so i don't remember what the first episode was about other than setting up the premise of the show.I just watched it as well--
I am sad that there is such an overwhelming lack of creativity that so much of new movies/tv/fiction/media has to be re-imaging/re-imagining of past material.
And, if you are going to do this, don't do it with IPs that are as revered as Quantum Leap. Let's face it, there is no one who watched the original in its day and did not fall for Scott Bakula's charisma and the overall charm of the show. And probably cried a few times too...
As to it's wokeness-- yeah, but it was not at all like today's wokeness. It took an internally consistent view of American History and constructed a ton of beautiful narratives based on it. From living through the 80's, portraying the stuggles of black men/women, gay people, and other race and gender issues from a perspective of empathy worked. Jim Crow laws happened, women's liberation happened, the cold war ideology infiltrated American culture. It all happened--but of course, history cannot be portrayed in an unbiased fashion. Impossible. So, for its time it was contemplative . It served as it's own course in American Studies as seen through its (very talented) creators. I, for one, cannot begrudge the original series for what it did/was. It was great.
That's not how wokeness is done in the media any longer. It doesn't portray socio-economic, political or gender issues (etc) in any way that encourages empathy, discussion, thoughtfulness or contemplative discussion. It's pedantic, forced, and in the imperative. All the horrors and propaganda of the media that we, as Americans, were concerned were occurring in Nazi Germany, the Middle East and Russia (then and now) are happening RIGHT NOW in our media.
The world as portrayed in most main stream media is a world of propagandist fiction that does not encourage a culture of inquiry. It formulates a false narrative of the present. The original series did not do this. You could form a college level seminar on some of the old Quantum Leap episodes.
That being said, episode #1 was inoffensive and vanilla. It seems like there will be less learning about social, societal, historical controversies and more finding out about the bullshit science of Quantum Leap. It was mildly entertaining. To the creative team of the new series I ask:
Your producers were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should.
i'm NOT giving the new one a pass, i haven't watched it, i probably won't, just curious about whether the comparison is totally fair. though, in all honesty you're probably completely spot on.
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Harshaw
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They just added like 6 more episodes to this season. Must be doing well enough.
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