You went out for dinner with someone and made them pay for their own meal? I don't even do that shit when I go out for a beer with another guy. You're a low class beta.Listen, you guys say that red pill only works on gold diggers, then you say it only works on whores, then you say it only works on low class(never mind that 40% of America is considered "low class") women
Trust me, it ALSO works on feminists, it works on school teachers (including the one sleeping right next to me tonight), it works on nurses, it works on college students like the one I went to a restaurant with yesterday (she paid for her own meal). It works on emotionally damaged, cutting emo chicks. It works on bankers. It works on mid level managers in retail. It works on women raised by single mothers. It works on women raised by both parents. It works. Period.
Try it out, I guarantee you won't turn into a serial rapist or anything. Tell me I'm wrong. Tell me that red pill only worked on those women because of x...To tack on to this, yes most of the advice gets to the point where it's only applicable to a subset of women but boy ever is it effective within that subset!. And it's self reinforcing since it works, it convinces a lot of guys that that subset is bigger than it is.
However, in moderation and with greater nuance and understanding a lot of the points are more broadly applicable, and while that sort of discussion is harder to find in TRP, it's not absent. Just toned out by a louder, easier discussion.
Everyone has preferences and shit tests and is jockeying their SMV against yours subconsciously. And knowing how things work as opposed to how we wish things worked is certainly valuable even when you're not with that sad little subset for which the hammer is the best tool always.
A) I make right around 150k a year. I'm 32 and chubby, not very tall. We've discussed that to death already.Oh my god, she paid for her own meal!
You're so impressive.
You didn't pay for dinner and you got to make out. What is this? Jr. High?A) I make right around 150k a year. I'm 32 and chubby, not very tall. We've discussed that to death already.
B) college students don't tend to have a lot of money
C) she offered to split the tab, this was a pretty nice restaurant, most college girls don't want to pay 20 dollars for a meal. Old beta me would have refused her, said don't worry about it, and paid for her meal. Red pill aware me realized that selfish men make women feel comfortable.
We ended up making out later in my car. Had I paid for her meal, I essentially would have been paying for her to kiss me. Instead she did it because she was attracted to me. The same reason she wanted to pay for her meal, she was attracted and wanted me to think good thoughts about her.
$150k a year? Dumar in particular had been arguing Hypergamy left and right and not long ago there was a drawn out debate over women's preference based on income for online dating sites. Yet here you are dropping a salary reference and then in the very next breath trying to convince us that she made out with you in your car because you didn't pay for her meal...A) I make right around 150k a year. I'm 32 and chubby, not very tall. We've discussed that to death already.
B) college students don't tend to have a lot of money
C) she offered to split the tab, this was a pretty nice restaurant, most college girls don't want to pay 20 dollars for a meal. Old beta me would have refused her, said don't worry about it, and paid for her meal. Red pill aware me realized that selfish men make women feel comfortable.
We ended up making out later in my car. Had I paid for her meal, I essentially would have been paying for her to kiss me. Instead she did it because she was attracted to me. The same reason she wanted to pay for her meal, she was attracted and wanted me to think good thoughts about her.
MericaWas her meal only $20 because she's not old enough to order a drink?
Im the only one who doesn't. I am the 98%.So do we all make 6 figures here?!
This thread. Entertaining at least.
Within the context of this thread's logic, that math works out.Im the only one who doesn't. I am the 98%.
I met this girl on Tinder. I made no reference to how much money I make, although obviously showing up in a newish bmw she knows I make "good" money. She knows I'm an air traffic controller, but most people just assume, "oh, you work at the airport" and those controllers make good money, but more like 80k, not "golddigger attracting" money. In fact she SPECIFICALLY said something like "Long term plans I don't mind if I make more money than a guy, I know most guys can't compete with a MBA".$150k a year? Dumar in particular had been arguing Hypergamy left and right and not long ago there was a drawn out debate over women's preference based on income for online dating sites. Yet here you are dropping a salary reference and then in the very next breath trying to convince us that she made out with you in your car because you didn't pay for her meal...
Yes, I consider making out for a few minutes on a first date "ok", but I should have done better, it was my fault for screwing up the logistics, I had talked about bringing over a bottle of wine from my hometown (out of state) and sharing it the previous day... but I had forgotten it and left it at home. So there was no "excuse" for me to escalate and move to a more private location. If she invited me into her apartment it would have been purely for sex, and most women aren't willing to be that "overt" on a first date. They need that plausible deniability. That... omg we were just going to look at my stamp collection at 9pm on a saturday, one thing led to another, and yadda yadda yadda.You didn't pay for dinner and you got to make out. What is this? Jr. High?