RIP Araysar

Chris said:

Lightning Lord Rule do you really think that I'm going to post a several hundred word essay I've been asked about by Erronius just to lie and troll?

If my opinions on this topic are confined to the rickshaw then so be it, but I'd rather get some kind of retard reactions for disagreements and not "pants on fire".

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Yes, I do. Here's my evidence:

Chris said:

Sure. I guess it depends what your interest is in the conflict so please say if I missed something.


1) Let's say we look at this from the point of view of a Russian nationalist who wants the Russian people and empire reunited for the good of the Russian people. There is a time limit. Because as much as they can say that Ukraine is a fake country Lenin created for UN seats or whatever, the conflict is creating a divergent story for the people in Ukraine compared to those in Russia and forging a new national identity and origin story.

North Korea, Palestine and Taiwan are fake countries created for geopolitical reasons. Except they aren't anymore, they are now distinct from South Korea, Jordan and China because of what the people have been through.

It's no longer possible for Russia to just absorb Ukraine like they absorbed Crimea and may absorb Belarus eventually. The longer this goes on the larger the rump Ukraine will have to be to house all the people who now hate Russia.

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Underlined is A LIE. You have no evidence that this is what Russian Nationalists want. Nationalists in this country want to DIVEST themselves of empire, not expand it, so if Nationalism shares some common traits then Russian Nationalists would be more likely to want to not expand their borders into foreign lands. Therefore the entire premise of your point is false. This is just a Neocon globalist view that has no basis in fact that you are extrapolating from, and is an utterly worthless opinion based on nothing but a lie. That YOU believe it doesn't make it true or even worth considering.

Chris said:

2) Now let's say that we look at this from the point of view of someone who hates Globohomo and wants a multi-polar world with a conservative, family friendly, christian nd white Russia to offset the US/EU/NATO/WEF.

Russia is one of three alternate centres of power along with India and China, it's had been the #2 power behind the US for a long time.

Russia has already been exposed as an ineffective military force. They will disagree with me and say it's all part of the plan somehow, or it's unfair because of all the NATO equipment somehow. However a superpower would have won a conflict on their own border quickly and convincingly, usually the issue is occupation not invasion.

The West is not suffering in any way from the conflict and the circus has moved back to Israel.

So Russia has been relegated to a minor regional power. There is no way back from this anytime soon. They only made progress when they had a PMC who has since beytrayed them and disbanded.

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All three of these sentences are lies. An ineffective military force would have been beaten back into Russia and would be suing for a negotiated settlement. As the NATO planners predicted would happen after sanctions were used. Has any of the NATO planners' predictions played out? NO. Furthermore, a SUPERPOWER, such as the US, just had to withdraw in disgrace from Goatfuckistan after 20 years of futility and expense. Has Russia had to withdraw from the Republics they annexed whatsoever? How about Crimea? NO? Then you are either propagating lies here, or are so stupid that you can't understand the first fucking thing about the meaning of words. Or is it just satire? Dry wit? What's the excuse this time for your blatant sophistry?

The West isn't suffering? Are you high? If we checked in on German industry, would they agree? How about rural France that's on fire and been dealing with massive protests over their globalist governments' policies, and now having to pay US rates for LNG? Or the US taxpayer that is now on the hook for yet another war after dumping 3/4 of a Trillion $$ into Ukraine and now yet another boondoggle in Israel? But the MSM doesn't tell you all that so you aren't aware. At the very least this third sentence is a myopic, dismissive insult of the plight of anyone who isn't a MSM huffing inner-party affiliated lickspittle like you.

Chris said:

3) Finally let's look at this from the point of view of someone who looked at the facts and decided that Russia is just in the right about Maiden and NATO expansion etc.

How many lives is to worth on both sides to contest an election, a coup, corrupt energy companies etc?

How beneficial are those Black Sea ports really How much safer from nukes is Russia strategically without them being in Ukraine but now potentially in Finland?

That calculation looks less and less worth it as the conflict drags on.


Can you explain why time isn't a factor?

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You haven't looked at any facts to base this assumption on, you've looked at the lies propagated by the MSM and western intelligence. But yet I repeat myself. In the Ukraine thread, there have been literal REAMS of evidence disproving the bullshit mainstream narrative. REAMS. And yet you carry on as if none of that was ever posted, none of it means anything, and you're happy to swallow all of the theories that the known propagandists put out with a completely uncritical eye.

ALL of this is not only worthless, it has a NEGATIVE value. By repeating these lies, it shows you're either stupid, incapable of learning, a malicious actor, or some combination thereof. There's no entertainment value here, there's no information value here, and any moral considerations could only serve as a cautionary tale.


That you post this kind of thing with ANY air of authority yet again reinforces my decision to excise your presence from the pol section. You and your opinions are utterly worthless, and until I see a significant improvement in your attitude AND you take some responsibility for the posts you've made in the past you'll continue to be relegated to the Rickshaw where you belong.
With the rest of the garbage.