Oh come on, be a sport. Run the numbers and let me know how many times more the speed would need to be than what the tires would take before they explode into misunderstood balls of flame.
I bet you take Jehovah's witnesses at their word too. Ever try thinking for yourself? This is the science thread, so if you don't want to science then GTFO.
The problem presents an interesting paradox depending on how it is worded/interpreted.
Somewhat related, for one of my physics finals I made a formula to figure out how fast you would have to throw a snowball for it to sublimate (become gas instantly without turning to liquid first) from the friction caused by the air resistance, based on the average barametric pressure for a given altitude above sea level you happened to be. It was a fun excercise in mental masturbation at the time.Oh come on, be a sport. Run the numbers and let me know how many times more the speed would need to be than what the tires would take before they explode into misunderstood balls of flame.
To whom were you directing your ire? I must have misunderstood. Electrical engineer.Hardly, since I am an atheist...
I am just annoyed at the amount of effort being directed at him when he obviously fails to grasp even the basics of the physics behind flight. But, part of it is that I do not find aerodynamics and classical mechanics as interesting as particle physics and astronomy. The actual math behind the friction force is somewhat interesting, however. Are you a mechanical engineer?
Give us a number bro.To whom were you directing your ire? I must have misunderstood. Electrical engineer.
Tuco it doesn't work that way. Plot c versus v. You can't just hold c constant for all values of v.
\Hey if classical mechanics problems bore you, I'm sure some real 'science' discussion like the latest science motivational speech or faux-science news about negative temperature or whatever will come soon.Soy_sl said:I give the number 2, as in the shit this thread has turned into.
Haha bitch. I defeated you with the power of math. The answer to the treadmill problem is: "Fuck you the airplane is taking off."No bro. Do your own extrapolations.
Yep.OB_sl said:I have no doubts about our nation's poor showing in math and science rankings. The responses here are truly pathetic...
No I just draw the line at making up equations to suit your fancy. The equation I linked literally says the coefficient increases with the square of velocity. If you hold c at the value you gave it actually spits out a very low velocity. If you weren't so lazy you could easily google images of plots of c versus v. It doesn't stay constant let alone that low at higher velocities.Haha bitch. I defeated you with the power of math. The answer to the treadmill problem is: "Fuck you the airplane is taking off."
Yep.
Is there no insult I can use that will cause you to admit what ridiculous speed you'd need to overcome the engine thrust?No I just draw the line at making up equations to suit your fancy. The equation I linked literally says the coefficient increases with the square of velocity. If you hold c at the value you gave it actually spits out a very low velocity. If you weren't so lazy you could easily google images of plots of c versus v. It doesn't stay constant let alone that low at higher velocities.
heh, who did I argue with about that anyways?Do two objects of equivalent dimensions with different masses end up falling at different speeds if released from a significant height?
You can insult me all you want, the physics simply don't back up your assertion. You have your answer already, but please continue to allow your cognitive dissonance to reign.Is there no insult I can use that will cause you to admit what ridiculous speed you'd need to overcome the engine thrust?
That's why it is an upper bound! Given the underlying physics involved with accelerating a giant treadmill to 1/3 the speed of light, I'm not sure the structural integrity of the plane even matters that much. The real answer is probably at whatever speed the first point fails catastrophically.At which point the plane would flip or the fucking landing gear would rip off anyhow.