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Shia LaBeouf protest of Trump
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Adebisi
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Thanks néo nazis, thanks ...
I didn't know that the US was the third reich... sad.
I didn't know that the US was the third reich... sad.
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elcaro1101
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I'm from Europe (Belgium), and i don't understand what's a liberal for you, but for me Trump is a liberal. So i'm confuse...
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Burren
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Trump is what we call a Conservative (the Republican party generally are). Conservatives prefer to enact policies that allow people to protect what they've worked hard for, enable business to grow, and retain liberties and freedoms. Liberals like to take things away from those who work hard and give it to everyone else that just wants free shit. They like to manipulate the uneducated and ignorant, they think that if we all hold hands and smile, the world will be a happy place and if you don't agree with them, they will do everything in their power to demonize you and try to destroy you (they're retarded hypocrites).
Conservatives say "let me live my life and you can live yours, we're cool". Liberals say "Do what I say, not what I do, don't argue, and if you don't agree, I'll cry like a little bitch and call you a bad name"
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First, excuse my english, i don't speak perfectly and i don't get any sentences i can read or hear. But i'm gonna try. (in fact, i think my english is quite terrible)
So basically, you are greedy. (sorry but this is what it is) I disagree with what you say, "they" want "free shit" : they want "education" (and healthcare) but they can't afford it, because in YOUR country, it's not "free" instead it COST WAY TOO MUCH !!!!
About healthcare, you may not now that but YOUR system is one of the worst of the world (well let's be honest : one of the worst of the countries who have one !) there's a lot of studies about that and they all agree. (this one for example : Mirror, Mirror on the Wall, 2014 Update: How the U.S. Health Care System Compares Internationally ) sarcasm : but maybe some Trump's fans have some "alternative facts" to that ?
In my country education cost "less" (not free), like really less than yours and we like it. A simple guy can become an engineer or so... and it's not "that easy, that free".
But if it's your definition of the world... i can respect your opinion, it's your choices, your country. But, if you want to live with good educated people and not surrounded by retards then you need to find a way. Our way is to help people to get education and it's not perfect, it's not flawless but it works, most of the times. Same with healthcare, we think it's not normal to let people die because they can't afford it. You have cancer, we gonna help you. You don't have money, whatever we gonna find something.
Aaand you miss a point, a great one. We are loosing jobs (around the world) because robots - online sellings - etc... And soon because of the IA : we have "banks" who fired people last month because they need less worker, everyone is doing "online banking" so no more needs of bank tellers, financial specialist and so. (same for the industry, shops, warehouses, and the list goes on and on).
The one jobs politicians have to answer NOW is this question : How to live with less jobs, less our to works ?
In Europe, we speak about "universal revenue" (a small paycheck for everyone, every month), i'm against IF there isn't something else with this revenue because IMO if you "give" money to everyone you gonna have a lot of people who just "don't give a fuck" about what they are, what they do. And soon a large amount of people just become ... TARDS. Let's imagine for whom those tards are gonna vote at the election... No one want's that, no one. I don't want to see a "tards king" rulling my country. It maybe looks stupid, but i'm really affraid to see this happens.
The other way is sharing the working time, everyone work less and maybe earn less, this is tricky, a large amount of people disagree, they already want to earn more so... but it looks like the only reasonable way.
Despite of a real solution, we need politicians to take the correct "way", and as far as i can see it's gonna be really really difficult. I don't see anywhere in the world someone taking the right decision and certainly not YOUR president.
That's my opinion (with all of my low skilled english i have), no offense.
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First, excuse my english, i don't speak perfectly and i don't get any sentences i can read or hear. But i'm gonna try. (in fact, i think my english is quite terrible)
So basically, you are greedy. (sorry but this is what it is) I disagree with what you say, "they" want "free shit" : they want "education" (and healthcare) but they can't afford it, because in YOUR country, it's not "free" instead it COST WAY TOO MUCH !!!!
About healthcare, you may not now that but YOUR system is one of the worst of the world (well let's be honest : one of the worst of the countries who have one !) there's a lot of studies about that and they all agree. (this one for example : Mirror, Mirror on the Wall, 2014 Update: How the U.S. Health Care System Compares Internationally ) sarcasm : but maybe some Trump's fans have some "alternative facts" to that ?
In my country education cost "less" (not free), like really less than yours and we like it. A simple guy can become an engineer or so... and it's not "that easy, that free".
But if it's your definition of the world... i can respect your opinion, it's your choices, your country. But, if you want to live with good educated people and not surrounded by retards then you need to find a way. Our way is to help people to get education and it's not perfect, it's not flawless but it works, most of the times. Same with healthcare, we think it's not normal to let people die because they can't afford it. You have cancer, we gonna help you. You don't have money, whatever we gonna find something.
Aaand you miss a point, a great one. We are loosing jobs (around the world) because robots - online sellings - etc... And soon because of the IA : we have "banks" who fired people last month because they need less worker, everyone is doing "online banking" so no more needs of bank tellers, financial specialist and so. (same for the industry, shops, warehouses, and the list goes on and on).
The one jobs politicians have to answer NOW is this question : How to live with less jobs, less our to works ?
In Europe, we speak about "universal revenue" (a small paycheck for everyone, every month), i'm against IF there isn't something else with this revenue because IMO if you "give" money to everyone you gonna have a lot of people who just "don't give a fuck" about what they are, what they do. And soon a large amount of people just become ... TARDS. Let's imagine for whom those tards are gonna vote at the election... No one want's that, no one. I don't want to see a "tards king" rulling my country. It maybe looks stupid, but i'm really affraid to see this happens.
The other way is sharing the working time, everyone work less and maybe earn less, this is tricky, a large amount of people disagree, they already want to earn more so... but it looks like the only reasonable way.
Despite of a real solution, we need politicians to take the correct "way", and as far as i can see it's gonna be really really difficult. I don't see anywhere in the world someone taking the right decision and certainly not YOUR president.
That's my opinion (with all of my low skilled english i have), no offense.
How did this guy make it past screenshots immigration. Didn't we elect to build a wall to keep these types out of SS?
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Show me one instance of someone who actually wants an education in the US who is prevented from getting one? They want free education in stupid ass subjects that have no job prospects and free healthcare so they can spend their money on drugs and partying and other random petty shit.
Liberals think they should be able to just party and have fun all the time without having to work for anything while having everything that the people who work instead of goof off get to have. If you want to spend $500 a month on drugs and alcohol and boats and cars and 80 inch 4k tvs and shit then don't hold your hand out to me when you get hurt and can't pay your medical bills. Welcome to the world of responsibility (which liberals don't think they should have).
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Well, in my country the poor people doesn't spend money on boats, cars, 80 inch 4k screens... because they don't have money for. Wich is obvious.
I think you are making a generality, not all the poor people act like that. And just to be precise, i'm not defending the liberals, i said before : for me Trump is a liberal, if you want a liberal-conservative.
In very simple words, it's your opinion, it's not the way i see things. Maybe i'm wrong. Maybe not.
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Also "you people" use "Europe" as an example yet its not Europe its all the little countries doing their own socialist shit - so "OH LOOK WE GIVE THIS SHIT TO EVERYONE" you have like 1/10 the Everyones as the US because of many factors, such as THEY ALL FUCKING LEFT EUROPE or jumped our southern border with no checks - and guess what, YOUR country whatever it is, I bet has 100x more enforced immigration policy than the USA.
Our prices for healthcare AND education AND everything are so high BECAUSE its ALL SUBSIDIZED to GIVE FREE SHIT TO PEOPLE. I don't understand how people do not understand this, if we deregulate and de-subsidize prices will go down - making 5$ and hour will be worth your time again and not just "pfft screw work, gimmy that government cheese" - no RAISING minimum wage is COUNTER PRODUCTIVE and again just a libtard move to appease the mindless poor to keep voting for them.
Our prices for healthcare AND education AND everything are so high BECAUSE its ALL SUBSIDIZED to GIVE FREE SHIT TO PEOPLE. I don't understand how people do not understand this, if we deregulate and de-subsidize prices will go down - making 5$ and hour will be worth your time again and not just "pfft screw work, gimmy that government cheese" - no RAISING minimum wage is COUNTER PRODUCTIVE and again just a libtard move to appease the mindless poor to keep voting for them.
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About healthcare, you may not now that but YOUR system is one of the worst of the world (well let's be honest : one of the worst of the countries who have one !) there's a lot of studies about that and they all agree. (this one for example : Mirror, Mirror on the Wall, 2014 Update: How the U.S. Health Care System Compares Internationally ) sarcasm : but maybe some Trump's fans have some "alternative facts" to that ?
You can't compare healthcare in the various European countries to healthcare in the United States. Show me a country in Europe of equal size, population, and population diversity to the USA that also expends enough money to keep the world a semi-stable place and then suggest to me how they should provide healthcare to their citizens.
We have global obligations dating back to the Second World War, and no matter how you view it (American hegemony or neo-imperialism) our actions have made the world a better place than it would be otherwise.
Furthermore, the United States and most European countries have entirely different cultures. America's national past time is making money. We aren't going to shift our focus from putting an extra dollar in our pocket to helping the guy in the next state overnight. These are hugely complex problems that arguing on the internet is never going to solve. I would be surprised if any of us understand 1/100th of the necessary information needed to make an educated argument.
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zzeris
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Thanks for sharing from your side of the pond. I do like a lot of the things Europe has done but it will be interesting to see if it lasts. The Great Refugee Experiment seems to have been an utter failure and while Europe has done a great job helping to subsidize many poor and educate people, they have a lot of giant problems to solve in the future. The population is declining, your Muslim populations seem to assimilate poorly and are extremely poor, and nationalistic opinions are growing quickly. Mostly free US defense may be reduced and your budgets are already suffering from uncertainty, Brexit, Muslims, Greece, limited fuel sources, and probably a few other I don't know about.
You are really close to both Russia and the Middle East which means constant vigilance is necessary but will European leaders stand together when they have such a horrible history of it? If Russia eats little Latvia, who will stand up to them? America again?
Once again, I admire the cheap college, the effort to provide benefits for all, the good healthcare, and the local cuisines and travel interests. Europe is a wonderful place. I hope it continues that way.
Thanks for sharing from your side of the pond. I do like a lot of the things Europe has done but it will be interesting to see if it lasts. The Great Refugee Experiment seems to have been an utter failure and while Europe has done a great job helping to subsidize many poor and educate people, they have a lot of giant problems to solve in the future. The population is declining, your Muslim populations seem to assimilate poorly and are extremely poor, and nationalistic opinions are growing quickly. Mostly free US defense may be reduced and your budgets are already suffering from uncertainty, Brexit, Muslims, Greece, limited fuel sources, and probably a few other I don't know about.
You are really close to both Russia and the Middle East which means constant vigilance is necessary but will European leaders stand together when they have such a horrible history of it? If Russia eats little Latvia, who will stand up to them? America again?
Once again, I admire the cheap college, the effort to provide benefits for all, the good healthcare, and the local cuisines and travel interests. Europe is a wonderful place. I hope it continues that way.
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