Star Trek: Picard

Lithose said:

Yep. Hell, Voyager was using Hologram armor and shit. Not to mention before the doctor even came back, Star Fleet was already making ships with "emergency" hologram crews. (Both characters in this are Hologram crew)

Hologram tech should be everywhere and completely superior to synth tech.
Which, even on Voyager and Star Trek--that leads to another problem. The whole reason Data couldn't be copied is because it was super-complex to create actual intelligence. Yet somehow the Enterprise and Voyager's computer cores could shit on sentient AIs by mistake all the time. So really the only restriction was the emitter, which Voyager solved into the ground. I mean, again, literally the new Anti-Borg battleships had hologram emergency crews already.

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The holographic armor and weapons were used as a deception by the ECH (Emergency Command Hologram), nothing that would actually do anything against real weapons and armor. Also, the mobile emitter was unique to the Doctor as it was tech from the 29th century that they couldn't reverse engineer or replicate. All other holograms required stationary emitters -- which are obviously all over the goddamn place now.

Malakriss said:

How strong is a hologram? Can they punch through walls and lift every bulkhead that seems to inexplicably trap only a crewman's leg? That might be where they draw the line and say the trek-science requires a physical synth to accomplish superhuman workforce feats.
In First Contact when they activated the EMH to distract the Borg he didn't put a holographic fist through their chest.

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The Doctor wasn't trained for combat. In the Beowulf story ("Heroes and Demons"), he never engages in combat, preferring to let attacks flow through him. But otherwise a hologram should in effect be as strong as its emitter, which can be compared to the ship's force fields or shields.

Gavinmad said:

Worf does fuck up a drone with a mek'leth in First Contact once their phasers became useless, but keep in mind that drones are only dangerous up close.

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Except the "military drones" that actually shot insta-gib weapons, ala Descent where they basically just murdered everyone.

I just needed to clarify some Voyager lore as I've watched the ever-living tits out of that series.

"You think that Star Trek: Picard could get the coronavirus?"

Daezuel said:

This last episode was aggressively stupid. Robot mind melds, Mass Effect stolen plot, DONT FEAR THE REAPERS!

Fuck off Chabon and Kurtzman.

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Let's be honest, mind melds to begin with are pretty ridiculous. But this apparently also opens up the pandoras box about whether an android has a katra/soul, because that was a huge part of being able to mind meld. Spock transferred his into McCoy, Sarek cast part of his into Picard.

This show is going to become a precursor to Altered Carbon, with the whole "mind transfer" aspect, and it no longer becomes about synth vs life, but rather "real death". Also, Noonian Soong, his wife, was she a mental transfer, or were her memories simply facsimiles? I need to go back and watch that episode.

Episode 9... The whole "we're going to be illogical because th show dictates it" is getting obnoxious. They don't have a good argument for being universally malaise after Picard and crew's good deeds. It's like the Romulans Only scene. It's egregious and silly.

And simply stabbing an android in the eye is going to disable, let alone kill one? Get right the fuck out. Data got smacked in the head with a giant mining pick, and it wasn't until he was impaled that he shut off, but was easily repaired. Are they weaker/more biological now? What. Why.

Also, Spot 2.0. I just watched the episode where Spot produced offspring (the one where everyone de-evolves), and none of her kittens were orange (which was also strange). 7th season, so 20 years isn't unfathomable for a cat, but definitely stretching it just for the fuckin member berries. Wait, he made an Android cat?

Soong had a son? I mean, I guess. But with there being Data, Lore, B4, why isn't there another Data-form wandering around? Why did it feel like there were only a handful of androids, when, once they're programmed to grow/replicate themselves I feel like for efficiency sake they would have made 8474729358104958 of themselves.