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I cannot even imagine what these monsters have in charge for Anthem....
 
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I cannot even imagine what these monsters have in charge for Anthem....

It'll be pretty shitty which is disappointing. Destiny with a more predatory loot system seems like it'll be awful tbh.

Then again, hopefully BioWare will have a bit more of a say on it.
 
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On my video game care-o-meter, Overwatch's paid loot boxes that give zero advantage to a player are pretty low on my list. Doesn't mean I love Blizzard.

Kinda like how on my religion care-o-meter I consider Islam much worse than christianity. Doesn't mean I love christianity.

Come at me.
 
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In overwatch you get skins all the time, even legendary ones although they're rare. You're also continually levelling, so you keep getting boxes. If all else fails, you can buy skins (or anything) with the gold you get from boxes.

If you want to spend money and be a retard go ahead.
 

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In overwatch you get skins all the time, even legendary ones although they're rare. You're also continually levelling, so you keep getting boxes. If all else fails, you can buy skins (or anything) with the gold you get from boxes.

If you want to spend money and be a retard go ahead.

And this is why they're predatory. They actively target retards and make good money on doing so.
 
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I have all maps, all characters with all their abilities operating at maximum level without spending any money.

Same as Battlefront II I hear.
 

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WoW is worse compared to OW IMO. Mounts and pets you can only purchase with IRL money.

Battlefront II $79.99 for standard edition, guise! Pay to pay to play!
 

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All video games use retards as a baseline for MTX systems. They're targeting easy bux.

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WoW is worse compared to OW IMO. Mounts and pets you can only purchase with IRL money.

Battlefront II $79.99 for standard edition, guise! Pay to pay to play!
I'd agree but a lot of the pets/mount sales actually go to charity or disaster relief. Not all of course.

Also you can turn wow gold into blizzard bucks now
 

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why cant i just buy the skin i want in overwatch, why do i have buy 10 lootboxes full of shit at a chance of getting the skin i want

because they make more money this way, at expense to the consumer, its exploitative

OW doesnt get a pass just because its cosmetic, the system is still total bullshit

Imagine going to a grocery shop to buy some bananas and ending up with 5 mystery paper bags with a chance of some bananas. 'Oh you want reasons why you can't just buy bananas? Oh, we make more money this way'.

And also fuck that shit that it only affects retards who pay for them, because retards who pay for them is the reason this insipid shit is spreading to all games and why triple a single player titles actually have the audacity to put lootboxes in their endgame.

I don't want punished just because the lowest common denominator can't control their impulses.
 
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While OW is at the bottom of my care-meter, I do like your bananas anology
 
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BUT JUNKRAT LYING DOWN EMOTE ALLOWED YOU TO HIDE IN BUSHES AND STALL PAYLOAD ITS AN ADVANTAGE PACKAGED IN A RANDOM LOOT CRATE
 
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why cant i just buy the skin i want in overwatch, why do i have buy 10 lootboxes full of shit at a chance of getting the skin i want

because they make more money this way, at expense to the consumer, its exploitative

OW doesnt get a pass just because its cosmetic, the system is still total bullshit

Imagine going to a grocery shop to buy some bananas and ending up with 5 mystery paper bags with a chance of some bananas. 'Oh you want reasons why you can't just buy bananas? Oh, we make more money this way'.

And also fuck that shit that it only affects retards who pay for them, because retards who pay for them is the reason this insipid shit is spreading to all games and why triple a single player titles actually have the audacity to put lootboxes in their endgame.

I don't want punished just because the lowest common denominator can't control their impulses.

That's why it rustled my jimmies when they released that statement saying that they weren't a part of the lootbox discussion like they were immune to being criticized over their lootboxes.
 

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To me, it's simple. People need to boycott games and refuse to fuel the fire. The course will never change if they're able to keep making money. It's been long coming but this is not how games were initially marketed and while I understand we live in a different world where servers require upkeep and staff so I'm ok paying nominal fees for DLC's or certain services but it has to stop or we will never get games that are monetarily fair for gamers unless a point is made.
 

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Hahaha holy shit. Nice matchmaking too!

 
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Overwatch is an interesting comparison because the player base is actually retarded. I'll put it to you this way. My 11 year old daughter gets to play video games only on weekends. Most weekends we're out of town at sports events, so zero time spent playing.

She's now level 100 in Overwatch, I think level 104, and she'll tell me when these insane morons show up. There are people with > 4 silver stars getting their asses kicked by an 11 year old girl who gets to play the game maybe 4 hours a week. Watching her play, to someone like most of us here - retired powergamers - is extremely difficult. Yet here she is playing against people who may have thousands of hours into the game.

If Blizzard makes a killing off those people buying loot boxes so they can look like tribal warriors or whatever the fuck, so be it. So long as kids who have spent $0 on it (I did buy it for $60, as that was the only box price offered on PS4 at the time.) can demolish them. That's the critical point. You can spend a ton of time and money, but that shouldn't give you any kind of bonus (in a game like a FPS game, at least.) against those who paid the minimum entry price.
 
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