Star Wars: The Last Jedi (2017)

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You didn't care about them because you're cold-hearted pricks and already knew how it would end! There absolutely was character development.

Jyn was one-note. Cassian was a little wiener with no charisma. Brown guy was ok. Asian dudes were cool. But Jyn and Cassian were meant to be the heart of the story and they were the worst characters. They could've done a lot with the audience mostly knowing they were going to die, but it felt a bit empty at the end. Admittedly it was a bit more impactful the second time around, but still.

The thing that Rogue One did the best was nail the Star Wars feel. It didn't have the sort of good natured adventure feel of the OT, but it felt like what Star Wars has grown into in our minds. The tone of any of the new trailers compared to the movies themselves is always a bit of a disconnect except for Rogue One
 

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The tone of any of the new trailers compared to the movies themselves is always a bit of a disconnect except for Rogue One

This is oddly probably one of the biggest reasons I came out of TLJ disappointed. Just based on the trailer alone, I was expecting a much darker movie, much more in the tone of Rogue One which I enjoyed very much, even if it has some flaws. Instead, the beginning of the movie started with Poe playing Crank Yankers and that alone left me just hoping the rest of the movie wouldn't be as stupid but I knew that wasn't going to happen.
 
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But is Marvin not essentially just C3PO dialed to 11?

The three bots all exist on the same sarcasm spectrum for sure. C-3PO leans onto the friendly/optimistic side of the scale the most often of the three, Marvin is pretty close to the far end of the grumpy/pessimistic side, and K-2SO is pretty safe and boring in the middle of the spectrum.
 

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But is Marvin not essentially just C3PO dialed to 11?

K2 was basically a nicer version of HK-47. Would have flipped my shit if he'd used the term "meatbag", but he was a prisoner drone, not a bounty hunter drone.

Edit: K2 was also the best thing about Rogue One, next to the Vader scene, who cares what he was mimicking, it was done so well and so right that it overshadowed the performances by even the main characters. I was sad when he died, but gave literally no fucks when anyone else died. Shit, I almost cheered when limp eye got blown the fuck up.

Rogue One also had some of the best camera shots in general. The planets looked fucking amazing from space, and the space encounters weren't boring (space chase!) or stupid (a single pilot taking out a super ship with testicle dropping ground banging cannons, whoever thought that was a cool design was clearly a faggot).
 
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He was played by an Australian actor
Aussies get all the white ppl roles now

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"in order for my opinion to have any relevance, it must include outrageous hyperbole"

TLJ was such a terrible film that it retroactively made the phantom menace high art.
 
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Aussies get all the white ppl roles now

Norwegion God of Thunder
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Southern Redneck Zombie guy
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Rick is British, just please stop posting about actors nationalities, you're bad at it
 
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Australia is a continent, and not an Island. So only one of the "pale assholes" live on an Island.
Continents are subjective,
Facts,
Is it one country, yes
Are they engulfed in native dindus, yes
Is there water on every edge of land mass, yes

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Lol. Apparently there's a fanfic that was written in 2016 that has a few things very much in common with TLJ.

Something You Should Know about The Last Jedi

DEC 18, 2017
Krasava M

This post contains major spoilers for Star Wars: The Last Jedi.

Shortly after The Last Jedi premiered in LA, the Internet was buzzing with rumors discussing the big reveals, plot points, and spoilers that the film had to offer. One person who caught the movie early happened to notice some striking similarities between the plot of the film and a fanfiction that they read months ago. They posted it to Tumblr, someone posted it to Reddit, and as these things go, it went viral and left many scratching their heads, wondering how one fanfiction could possibly predict exactly what happens in The Last Jedi.

If you’ve ever browsed through Star Wars fanfiction on Archive of Our Own, you’ve probably ran into the name streetsolo at one point or another. She’s the writer of the Signs and Smoke Signals trilogy, consisting of books A Flare in the Dark, A Candle in the Night, and A Glow in the Dawn. The trilogy is enormous: with over one million words, it’s longer than the Harry Potter franchise and has over sixty thousand views spread between them.

The series was written and published starting in 2016, just one month after The Force Awakens came out. In other words, too soon for the story to just be based on leaks and rumors.

One of the first things readers noticed is probably the biggest: the story spoils the story of Rey’s parentage early on. The story is written as a Reader-insert to take the place of Rey herself, but the lines are still eerily similar. From the story, here is her interaction with Kylo Ren:

“My father is most likely dead,” you reply. “It never does well to dwell upon grudges that we have no chance of remedying.”

“Do you think he was an honorable man?”

You shake your head. “The man sold his daughter for drink. I would not say he was.”

The fact that she was sold into slavery for drinking money is brought up several times throughout the story. It’s strange because while human slavery is something that’s touched upon often, we don’t ever really see anyone get drunk in the Star Wars franchise enough to say that it’s a common occurrence and a conclusion that two people might arrive at independently. There simply isn’t a Star Wars character that you can point to and say – there! he’s an alcoholic! For comparison, here’s the direct line from the transcript of The Last Jedi:

Your parents were filthy junk traders who sold their only daughter for drinking money.

With all of the possible theories surrounding Rey’s origins: she’s a Skywalker, Kenobi, related to Palpatine, birthed by the midi-chlorians just like Anakin was – it’s strange that they both share the same origin story, especially when it’s so out of the box that it’s something that most people wouldn’t have even considered.

The lines have an eerie similarity, but there is a possibility that that could simply be coincidence. After all, it’s just one thing, right? Possibly, but it gets a little stranger when you read on and discover that the story basically revealed the entire plot…only two months after The Force Awakens came out and before any script was finalized.

In the story, A Candle in the Night, the Reader has been living on the Resistance base, undergoing training to develop her powers in the Force. Snoke bridges their minds and manipulates them through a Force bond that allows them to communicate long distance. The vision compels her to think that there is something good in Kylo Ren, and so she willingly goes to him in order to try to convince him to come back.

Sound familiar? Read on.

In the story, Kylo Ren lets Snoke think that he is servile and submissive while Snoke taunts him and tells him that he can’t shield his thoughts from him; then Kylo turns and attacks him without Snoke realizing it. At one point, both her and Kylo grab for the lightsaber at the same time and it’s frozen in place between them. The stalemate is only broken when an explosion rocks the ship and they’re both knocked unconscious. There are only two small differences: for one, the lightsaber doesn’t break. The lightsaber torn between them is also Kylo Ren’s lightsaber: she summoned it to her and was fighting with it after she was disarmed.

You know, kind of like Rey did.

That does sound eerily reminiscent of the plot of The Last Jedi, doesn’t it? Remember, in the film, Rey’s training is interrupted with a vision from Snoke when he bridges their minds and manipulates them through a Force bond and allows them to communicate long distance. The vision is what compels her to believe that there is still some good in Kylo Ren, so she willingly goes to him in order to try to convince him to come back to the light. Then Snoke taunts Kylo, while he pretends to be service and obedient, before turning the lightsaber on his former master. Later, the lightsaber is frozen in place between them, and the stalemate is only broken when an explosion rocks the ship and they’re both knocked unconscious. Rey seems to wake up first, leaving her enough time to get away.

If this is a coincidence, it’s a pretty bizarre one. Even back during the initial photo shoots, the Internet was buzzing with rumors that the author “got it right” when everyone noticed that Captain Phasma was fighting with a staff. In the story, its her signature weapon, and the one that she uses to train our protagonist with. In the story, the staff contracts and expands to make it easier to carry…you know, sort of like it did in the movie when you see it expand just before she’s about to fight Finn.

Except this story was written only one month after The Force Awakens hit theatres.

There are a lot more strange similarities scattered throughout the story. Touching hands is used throughout the story as a way to feel each other through the Force and evaluate Force potential. Kylo Ren consistently has Force visions of things that may come into pass in the future, but only as far as the protagonist is concerned: just like how he believed he saw Rey’s future when he was taking her to Snoke.

In the story, Yoda’s Force Ghost, as well as the Force Ghost of other characters, make an appearance several times. The story delves more into the mythology of the “veil” separating the Force Ghosts from our world and explores that connection, how Jedi and other Force Sensitive beings that have passed on can communicate through it. While nothing beyond Yoda’s Force ghost makes an appearance in TLJ, with Luke’s passing, it leaves the door open and may be something that JJ will tackle in Episode IX.

After watching the film, many feel that Snoke’s death was wasted potential being killed off in only the second movie; however, Snoke is also believed to be dead in the second chapter of the author’s trilogy: until he makes a triumphant, unexpected return, revealing himself to have taken over Hux’s form. If this is something that happens in Episode IX, I think it’s safe to say the idea didn’t come from them.

The similarities also continue with other characters: Leia changes Poe Dameron’s rank to Captain and encourages him to take on more of a leader stance within the Resistance with the plans for him to take over officially. While this story was written and published even before the death of Carrie Fisher, this still isn’t too much of a stretch prediction, considering this story is all about passing the torch to a new generation.

Despite that, these are some extremely strange coincidences. Looking beyond that, the only other explanation is that Rian Johnson lifted some of his ideas from a popular fanfiction. It’s not the only time Rian has listed his ideas from another source: Rian lifted Luke’s Force Projection from the Dark Empire comics. One familiar scene is in Legacy of the Force: Fury, when Luke confronts Darth Caedus and uses the Force to keep him pinned to a chair. Luke seems unstoppable in this scene, and you don’t realize he’s a doppelganger until the very end when he vanishes…you know, kind of exactly like the last scene of The Last Jedi.

The story itself isn’t hard to find. With its massive word count, with a quick search, it’s the top result. It sounds too bizarre to even consider, but the evidence is there. With the story published and timestamped almost two years before The Last Jedi hit theatres, how did the author manage to get so many things “right?”

I think Lucasfilm has some explaining to do.




Disclaimer: The points in this article were compiled from a user on Tumblr who wishes to remain anonymous.

The name of the person who wrote that article is a little fishy though...

StreetSolo - Profile | Archive of Our Own

Bio
Hi there! My name's Krasava and I'm an absolute loser that's currently obsessed with everything Star Wars and Kylo Ren. I don't know how it happened, I never meant for it to happen, but I suddenly woke up one day and fell in love with the way Adam swung that lightsaber at Finn in the trailer. Seriously. Stared at that gif for like twenty minutes on a loop. It all went downhill from there.

You can also find me over at Fanfiction.net and Tumblr/Twitter/Instagram by the same name.

Feel free to send me a message if you want to chat about anything. I love making new friends. ^_^

Cheers!!

But wait, who is StreetSolo and why should we care?

Signs and Smoke Signals - StreetSolo - Star Wars - All Media Types, Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015) [Archive of Our Own]

StreetSolo, aka Krasava, is the author of the fanfic that Rian Johnson allegedly plagiarized from.

I'm not about to start reading a 1,169,714 word count fanfic to see if there's any truth in this story at all but... kegkilla kegkilla bro, if you want a shot at ghostwriting Episode IX then get your fingers in gear and start posting up on archiveofourown.org asap!
 
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You pull away from him and lean back slightly, allowing him to move deeper inside of you as you put your arms on the floor on either side of you for support. “Fuck, yes, Kylo, fuck.” You throw back your head and groan as he pumps into you, filling you, and as you reach your orgasm you let him sweep you backwards until he’s on top of you as he finds his own release, his long fingers digging into your upper arms as he comes. You let him cover his mouth with yours as you drink in his hot, desperate gasps for air.
yeah I have a feeling Rian Johnson didnt read this shit.

However the fact that he came up with the same story elements as whatever landwhale wrote that shit says a lot about the quality of his writing.
 
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