StarCraft 2
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I would like to see a lot more games. For example, I have not seen any phoenix use vs terran. Maybe it would be terrible, but would like to see it tried.
I just can't get over the fact that a huge portion of the "plot", if you even want to call it that, revolves around this:
Kerrigan is a highly trained psionic assassin, master infiltration expert, expert spy, who can read minds, sense people over vast distances, control millions of Zerg with her mind, has conquered the majority of known space, deceived entire races, can infest humans to control them, and has slaughtered countless millions. She even comments during the game how Mengsk is a master manipulator. She is, of course, is instantly fooled by a single news report about her boyfriend being dead.
The problem with phoenix use is that it kind of hurts you for any bio timing. You can prevent drops but you don't have the AoE needed for that 2 medi push. Stargate just doesn't translate into pvt very well and pretty much equals an all-in for me. Granted, I'm just a mid/upper diamond player. I've seen plenty of pros try it on their stream but their army isn't strong enough. Just saw Rain with perfect control of an oracle but that is VERY difficult to do.
Emergency Booster need to remove the ability to turn the medivac so that you need to time its use, making it "skilled".
There is such a huge skill gap between korean terrans and the rest, it has little to do with game balance.
There is such a huge skill gap between korean terrans and the rest, it has little to do with game balance.
Flash is great, but watching this medivac boost shit and widow mines just owning everything, this isn't even entertaining to watch.
The games were good. A few cheesy builds were used. Rain was significantly better except for 1 FF engagement. Series probably shouldn't have been as close as it was. Was nice to see Protoss beat a Terran but it's sad to see how well Rain played and almost lost a series.
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I think it's a lot more entertaining to watch than the 4 base to 200 supply matches where nothing happens in the first 10 game minutes and then you just see massive armies killing each other over and over for 2 minutes until one guy runs out of money. And when someone constantly attacks at three different spots while the opponent just a moves his F2 army to defend one, well, I wouldn't blame boosters and mines.
What I do find hilarious is how many network issues they're getting in a closed environment. Horrible code is horrible.
I think you are missing the point. The idea behind the play is not that the terran has to do great multitasking while the zerg or protoss just attack moves a ball of units. These are all good players with good multitasking.
The reason the terran drop play is working so well is because they force their opponent to stay defensive while the terran gets ahead economically. As long as the terran trades evenly with the first couple of drops they should get into a snowball situation once they get a base ahead, and then their drops do not even need to trade evenly.
Exactly. The cost efficiency just seems real out of whack. I haven't watched many PvT's yet, but ZvT drops seem almost risk free, and medivac retention is nuts. No idea why they even decided to add boost, since medivac speed was so much of a problem in WoL that they had to nerf it.
I guess MC thinks phoenix openings might be the new standard against terran?
Assuming he goes from oracle into phoenix again.
Assuming he goes from oracle into phoenix again.
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Like I said the "plot" for Starcraft 2 is fucking retarded and retconned all to hell.
Yeah, mentioned yesterday that MC thinks SG is the way to go in PvT. MC makes builds work that shouldn't work though. I just don't see it, SG has to do a ton of damage or you are very far behind because the bio ball eats SG up mid to late game.I guess MC thinks phoenix openings might be the new standard against terran?
Assuming he goes from oracle into phoenix again.
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Polt vs Life series is freaking amazing. Going into game 5 now. Come on Polt. Knock out this last filthy zerg!
I do think SG openers vs terran is smart though because it really forces the terran to keep marines in their mineral lines or else they'll get raped. Although MVP kept marines in his mineral lines but MC brought in 4 oracles in and absolutely crushed. Plus VR bunker bust all-ins seem like they could be very strong. Also, phoenix could really shut down drops if you really wanted to go that route.
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Hot damn, every quarter final series is going to be epic. Life vs Last, MC vs Bomber, Flash vs Parting & Innovation vs Rain.
I actually thinking it'll be a Life/Bomber vs Innovation grand finals.
I do think SG openers vs terran is smart though because it really forces the terran to keep marines in their mineral lines or else they'll get raped. Although MVP kept marines in his mineral lines but MC brought in 4 oracles in and absolutely crushed. Plus VR bunker bust all-ins seem like they could be very strong. Also, phoenix could really shut down drops if you really wanted to go that route.
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Hot damn, every quarter final series is going to be epic. Life vs Last, MC vs Bomber, Flash vs Parting & Innovation vs Rain.
I actually thinking it'll be a Life/Bomber vs Innovation grand finals.
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