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DickTrickle

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Mist said:
Finally playing this. The intro to this game sucks ass lol.

"Oh you touched a thing and passed out, here brosis take my ship and go be a spacemanz"

The dialogue writing is worse than Cyberpunk's, at least in the beginning. I've seen later parts that look much better, so I don't know what to think.
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I definitely agree with this. Two hours in I actually switched back to a game of EU4 I was playing for a while. Not a compelling start at all.

However, one bright side for me (though a minor point) is that it actually feels fine from an RPG perspective to walk around doing side shit and ignoring the main story. I think of something like Fallout 4 where you get out and your last memory is your wife being murdered and your son stolen and then you just go about piddling in random people's lives and clubbing ghouls for fun.
 
Harshaw

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I have only played like 3-4 hours, but I find myself forcing myself to play and not because I am into it. A stark contrast to where I was forcing myself to stop in BG3.
 
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Talos

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Harshaw said:
I have only played like 3-4 hours, but I find myself forcing myself to play and not because I am into it. A stark contrast to where I was forcing myself to stop in BG3.
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Same, I couldn't force myself to focus attention on this. For the few hours I played I was just wanting to go back to BG3.
 
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Cybsled

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I think the biggest problem coming from BG3 to this is the story in BG3 is really strong from an intro perspective, so you get a bit of "culture shock" when you have a relatively weak opening. I know I felt the same, although eventually I got past that.
 
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rhinohelix

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Cybsled said:
They don't claim to be anything but a woman. The government basically did a "Let's make a a bunch of male and female clones of this person" as part of that secret program and modified the genetics as needed so the clone would grow into whatever sex they wanted the clone to be. You can even ask them "female clone of a man? how does that work?" and she basically says they altered the genetics when they cloned her. They also view the originating source of the genetic material as their "father", sort of like how Boba Fett viewed Jango Fett.

Speaking of bounty hunters, I just ran across my first group of them. I had picked the Wanted trait, but was confused because I never ran across bounty hunters. I was running around on Pluto (awesome source of Titanium and Tungsten if you're bottlenecked on mod research/crafting and need those materials in bulk) and see this group of like 5 dudes running to me, then they reveal I have a bounty on my head. I had the Ronin backstory and got them to backdown because they mostly wanted an easy shakedown (I later outran them back to their ship and killed the crew lol), but then they said more hunters will be coming. So I guess the Wanted thing doesn't trigger until maybe a certain level? I was around level 21 at the time.
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Its the way its presented, it very much comes off to me as Trans allegory, even though its not directly presented that way literally verbatim in the game. Here is a rundown showing Az's rant in context with the proper timeline and the dialogue as he experienced it from his stream. "Pronouns" were more than 6 hours from the rant.



I will let folks watch that and decide for themselves. I personally don't care about it but I understand where it comes from. Like I said, I just went past it all and haven't played this quest yet.

As far as the "Wanted" Trait, the Bounty Hunters first started appearing for me at lvl 4, 10 levels higher than me in super equipped class A ships that killed me almost instantly. After loading from a save, I paid them to let me go. I thought that they would be mostly ground attacks and it would be weapons and Ammo but they only seem to show up in space, which is the one part of the game I haven't spent much time on, at least 5+ levels higher and waaaay better equipped than I am. New Atlantis seems to offer nothing parts wise and I really don't want to invest what skill points I am able to get in spacecraft stuff as a yet. I am super tempted to use the console command and take "wanted" off.
 
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elidib

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You don't need to use a console command. if you do the bounty hunter chick's quest on Cydonia (Mars) she will offer to permanently remove it for, I believe, like 3,000 credits.

I like the perk myself, they're easy to kill, provide a little unexpected surprise now and then, and have some loot to sell.
 
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Chimney

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Now we cooking. I set carry weight to 999999 and game is infinity times better.


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Cinge

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Doc mitchell needs to see an eye doctor. He's obviously blind.

Btw the trade authority vendor in The Den, needs his credits much higher then the silly 11k at a time. Had to reset him twice just to sell 11 things of contraband.
 
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TJT

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So far this definitely feels more sandboxy than Skyrim/Fallout were.

I dig it.
 
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Zefah

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5 hours in and just arrived at Mars, but man... I hate to say that I'm really not feeling this one.

I think my biggest problem is that the setting just isn't grabbing me. There's no sense of awe to the exploration, which is crazy considering it's about space exploration. The characters and story so far are really quite boring (subjective, I know) and the environments already feel like a big copy and paste job. It doesn't have that feeling that there's something awesome to discover or something crazy just waiting around the corner.

I'm probably not giving it a fair shake, but usually I'm captivated pretty immediately by Bethesda games and the sense of "awe" sort of fades after a few dozen hours. This one just hasn't had it from the start for me.

Also, the menu-based travel system is really lame. Makes the universe and world feel cramped.

I think I'll beeline the main story for a few more hours and see if anything grabs me. I really hope something does...
 
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Kiroy

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this is a bell curve game, starts shitty, gets pretty good for a while, especially some of the well done side quests, then when once you get towards the end it just gets shitty again

started farting around in ng+ and meh, pretty much done with it.

may have to load up no man's sky tho
 
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popsicledeath

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Zefah said:
I'm probably not giving it a fair shake
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Nah. It's just a mediocre, uninspired game. If it had anything to grab your attention it would be. Forum full of gamers wanting a space game especially to captivate them and it's not, because it's just a boring, low effort game.

Don't get me wrong, I miss my youth too. And while dealing with shitty Bethesda inventory management and getting stuck on every tiny rock brings back memories, at some point you'd think they would have actually tried to improve some things instead of just shitting out the same Bethesda format that was already getting old a decade ago.

So, yeah, game feels like old school Bethesda gaming. Problem is the game feels instantly dated, like you're actually playing an old game. It's kinda weird and almost impressive to pull that off.
 
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