Survivor

Cantatus_sl said:

Then there were ones like Courtney (China, HvV), Randy (Gabon, HvV), Johnny Fairplay, and Tyson who had fun confessionals purely because they didn't censor themselves.

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Rudy was great for that same reason.

I wouldn't watch HvV for Colby, he was super disappointing in that season. What was it that James said about Colby? It was like watching superman in a fat suit (or something along those lines). But do watch HvV just because it was an awesome season.

Have to add season 5 to my 'hate' list. Just a nasty cast. I did not find it at all enjoyable.

This season keeps getting better and better.

Sucks that LJ is gone but this kept us from having a shitty few weeks (at least). This is the exact point where the post-merge game turns into a boring, predictable shitfest, but crazy ass Tony saved us. Not a good move, gamewise, but awesome for the viewer, and even more awesome for Spencer/Tasha/Jeremiah. I have no idea where this shit is going now, and that's awesome.

This is why they need to stick to the three tribe format (I'd even argue four) and stay 3 even if they do a swap. So no one alliance has a strangle hold and only needs one vote to lock up the majority. I am loving this season because these guys/gals aren't afraid to make moves. I agree at this point it looks like Tony made a major mistake, but hell I've been saying that with almost everything he has done so far this year, and he is still going strong. Although I do think he will get Hantzed even if he makes it to the end. Which is Survivor's biggest weakness while still being vital: votes from a jury who is butt hurt instead of objectively looking at it and deciding the winner. I honestly wonder if they delayed the vote until the night of the finale if that would make a difference. Yes, I know it's literally impossible to do it that way without it being tainted, but I just hate how the game punishes you for trying to make big moves and power shifts, because it might hurt someone's feelings.

I don't really see Tony that did himself any favors with this move, but it sure was entertaining. Lu Kang was the only one that voted LJ with him, but the girls are dumb and will probably fall right back in line when Tony alpha-dogs them back at camp. If Lu Kang has to leave the game due to injury, this shit REALLY gets turned upside down. I'm still riding for my boy Spencer.

Holy cowzah, dat Tony. Where did he find a stash of cocaine on this island? He really is crazy paranoid and over thinking his situation much to our viewing enjoyment.

Was very happy to see Spencer live another 3 days and keep his Immunity Idol to boot. Would love him to win at this point, or at least live long enough to see kass' idiot ass get voted off. Spencer is likable because you rarely see someone still so rational and controlled at this point in the game.

I like Tony too, but he is starting to yolo-death I think. I hope he makes it to the final 3 somehow.

Not caring much about Liu Kang anymore. while I don't dislike him, am starting to see him less as a cool sneaky ninja (that my brain wanted to enjoy pigeonholing him as) and more as a airhead surfer dude. Looks like he falls out of a tree next week, so if he makes his 'tumbling roll' and is unhurt, perhaps he regains some ninja status!

There should be a super-cut of Survivor contestants saying "I feel really comfortable" just prior to being blindsided.

This is a great season. Cant remember the last time I enjoyed Survivor so much.

Cant wait for the mobile spy shack next week. Fucking Tony.

Yeah, I really feel like Tony's move was a decent one. He was likely the first one that was going to get the axe, once it came down to 6. Even if he and LJ stayed "tight" to the final 3, he'd lose to LJ. He'll still be able to get the girls to fall back in line, especially since they don't have the security blanket of LJ anymore.

I don't know how they are able to pull off these spying missions with a camera crew following them around. Maybe pick-up shots after the fact, just to tell the story? I don't know.

My problem with Tony's move is that was too early. I don't think he's identified Spencer and Tasha as threats like he should have, and he could have weakened them further before making this move. He absolutely had to act on LJ as he doesn't want to sit next to him in the end, but he could have done that with Jeremiah, Woo and Kass after getting Spencer and Tasha out (as an example, could be any combination of the 3 that were eliminated). Now he's turned his aggressive play back on his alliance, definitely lost Jeffra, and put himself in a tough spot to win. Don't discount Jeffra, she's a vote that could be scooped up by Spencer and used against him.

Who the hell knows with this season, though. Tony is the best player left (I like Spencer but he's playing a much more passive game), and I could see him making the end with a couple more big moves going forward. It'll depend on who he's sitting next to as far as winning goes.

Adam12_sl said:

My problem with Tony's move is that was too early. I don't think he's identified Spencer and Tasha as threats like he should have, and he could have weakened them further before making this move. He absolutely had to act on LJ as he doesn't want to sit next to him in the end, but he could have done that with Jeremiah, Woo and Kass after getting Spencer and Tasha out (as an example, could be any combination of the 3 that were eliminated). Now he's turned his aggressive play back on his alliance, definitely lost Jeffra, and put himself in a tough spot to win. Don't discount Jeffra, she's a vote that could be scooped up by Spencer and used against him.

Who the hell knows with this season, though. Tony is the best player left (I like Spencer but he's playing a much more passive game), and I could see him making the end with a couple more big moves going forward. It'll depend on who he's sitting next to as far as winning goes.

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Jeffra will be easy for Tony to rope back in. Spencer isn't aggressive enough to really tilt her to his side. Trish will easily fall back in line, Woo is already with him, so I think he's poised pretty well. I think you're right in that it might have been smart to weaken Tasha's numbers a little, probably waiting one more week, but I really don't think Spencer is much of a threat after watching this episode. He's playing way too passively, banking on the fact that he has an idol.

Adam12_sl said:

My problem with Tony's move is that was too early. I don't think he's identified Spencer and Tasha as threats like he should have, and he could have weakened them further before making this move. He absolutely had to act on LJ as he doesn't want to sit next to him in the end, but he could have done that with Jeremiah, Woo and Kass after getting Spencer and Tasha out (as an example, could be any combination of the 3 that were eliminated). Now he's turned his aggressive play back on his alliance, definitely lost Jeffra, and put himself in a tough spot to win. Don't discount Jeffra, she's a vote that could be scooped up by Spencer and used against him.

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I think it's possible he tipped his hand too early. He had the alliance of six pretty well locked up and everyone trusting him (for some reason) and looking to him for leadership. He was in a very strong position similar to Boston Rob where, once those fractures started developing, he could easily start playing people against each other while remaining in the clear which handpicking who he wanted to sit with at the end. It probably would've been better for him to wait until the fractures started developing naturally or at least taken a little more time to foster doubt in people's minds. Making his move this early has the possibility of now making him his own alliance's version of Kass. It's a little counterintuitive to pound the idea of loyalty above all else into your alliance's head and then be the one to go against that.

Kirun_sl said:

I really don't think Spencer is much of a threat after watching this episode. He's playing way too passively, banking on the fact that he has an idol.

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Up until this point, I think he's had to. Spencer has been the victim of circumstance for most of the game. He started out on a horrible tribe where he held on by the skin of his teeth, switched to one where he was fortunate there already was some division and made sense for him to just sit back and take advantage of that, and then had his majority alliance destroyed by an idiot. Now that Tony has potentially destroyed his own alliance, I think next week will be the first chance Spencer has had to be able to make a big move. And hopefully he will, because at some point Tony is going to realize that his chances of winning against someone like Spencer or Tash as are small as they were against LJ.