Terminator (2019)

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neat deepfake replacing arnie from T1 with Rambo and a Roomba lol

 
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interesting honesty from the director



Nothing interesting about the honesty on display here;
I went in with the rock hard nerd belief that if I made a good movie
a good movie
These idiots that keep tanking these franchises are convinced that what they are making is not trash, they honestly believe they are making good movies and that we, the audience, are the problem. Terminator : Dark Fate was not a good movie, it was not a good action movie, and it was not a good Terminator movie. Was a lot better than Genisys, I'll give it that. Genisys is laughably bad, Dark Fate was just boring.

Opinions and grains of salt and all that.
 
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interesting honesty from the director



How it started it;


What a retarded faggot.
 
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How it started it;


What a retarded faggot.
lets just be honest here. it failed because it was an Arnold movie and Arnold is an old as fuck, beaten man. the movie was also not about him as a central figure, he was more of a sidekick. you can have a great script, but you fuck those things up, the movie is going to disappoint.
 
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neat deepfake replacing arnie from T1 with Rambo and a Roomba lol



Damn, I totally lost it at the Sarah reveal. Haven't laughed that hard in weeks.

Pertaining to this and the stupid Daenerys discussion earlier in this thread, there are now some super-convincing deepfake porns of Daenerys out there and they're actually really hot.

How it started it;


What a retarded faggot.

Yeah, Miller made his own bed.

Murdering Kid John Connor in the first few minutes of the movie actually made a lot of people walk out. Really fucks with my memories of T2 personally.

I own all of the Terminator movies on blu-ray (and considering I only own like 20 movies altogether, that's an exclusive club) but I think I'm gonna give Dark Fate to Goodwill or something. The hell with watching that one again.

Only good thing about it was A) Dani is hot...in real life, because in the movie she was dressed as a male car mechanic the whole time. B) The villain was pretty fuckin' cool. Gabriel Luna is a very charismatic actor and the Rev-9's ability to split in two was new, at least. That terminator needed to be in a better movie.
 
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i mean it can't be worse than the last 2 or 3 movies, right

it would be cool to rewrite Terminator so its less about humanoid androids and more about what AIs really will be, giant computing datacenters and their goals would be fairly unfathomable to us but more like "I want to grow and capture all the energy from a star to maximize efficiency"

i really hope though this means maybe he is finally realizing spending the next 10 years on avatar is not something anyone wants
 
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Isn’t that what Skynet was originally? AI that hijacked existing drones/nukes. The Androids/cyborgs came later.
 
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I am a little confused about that statement. The Terminators had AI. They came from a system that became self aware and thus must have had AI. I cannot understand how a movie just about the software development that led to Skynet would be very exciting. The exciting part was when Skynet told the human race to fuck off. I guess there could be some sort of Micro story involved that nobody had known existed involving the very first Terminator like droid, but that would kind of be boring at this point.

A complete reboot with new actors might work but if it is comprised of every representation of human kind, I will pass on it with no thought. I hope if this is done, the Woke stays the fuck away.

It is James Cameron, and so I will at least take a look at what he does, even if I choose not to go to the theater to watch it.
 

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The reboot better have

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Terminator 3 sort of played around with this idea already. They showed Skynet and that advanced virus combined to make Evil Skynet. But the lead up to that was the computer virus causing machines to malfunction and not do what people wanted them to do

So I suspect his reboot idea will just expand on that, except they will use stuff like Siri/Alexa and double down on the “automation” piece to make a mankind that is increasingly dependent on this technology and what happens when the tech becomes sentient and decides to do what the fuck it wants.

Now that I spell that out, you basically get Westworld the TV show lol
 
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i mean it can't be worse than the last 2 or 3 movies, right

it would be cool to rewrite Terminator so its less about humanoid androids and more about what AIs really will be, giant computing datacenters and their goals would be fairly unfathomable to us but more like "I want to grow and capture all the energy from a star to maximize efficiency"

i really hope though this means maybe he is finally realizing spending the next 10 years on avatar is not something anyone wants


Yeah, I'd rather see a Terminator prequel trilogy (like Salvation, except the Cameron version) from him than 3 more Avatars. Wish he'd wrap Avatar up with 3 and then do something with Terminator.

Given how bad Dark Fate was, though, I don't have a ton of hype for a Cameron-run Terminator movie unless it's future war stuff.

Isn’t that what Skynet was originally? AI that hijacked existing drones/nukes. The Androids/cyborgs came later.

Yeah, originally Skynet was just an AI that controlled the military stockpiles and whatever rudimentary automated drones existed in 1997. It didn't start building HKs until years later when it became clear that humans were still around and re-forming, and then Terminator models came along even later. Things like rubber-skinned T-600s were probably early 2020's and the plasma rifles were probably mid-2020's. The imitation human T-800s were "new" in 2029, the same year the war ended.

The future war flash-forwards in T2 are of 2029, the very end of the war where T-800s and HKs were in full use. That isn't representative of the entire future war. The flash-forwards in T1 are from earlier in time, maybe 2025 or something. No battlefield terminators, the plasma guns on the HKs are much slower, and the battlefields seem pretty quiet in comparison. And then earlier than that, the "war" probably just consisted of humans trying to shut down Skynet's factories by taking out whatever drones and gun emplacements they had defending them (thus necessitating the construction of more and better robots).

But yeah, the Terminator future war was like 20 years of hijacked existing technology, then 10 years of Skynet actually building its own robots once it realized it was legitimately threatened and needed to find a way to eradicate human settlements and so on.
 
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Yeah, I'd rather see a Terminator prequel trilogy (like Salvation, except the Cameron version) from him than 3 more Avatars. Wish he'd wrap Avatar up with 3 and then do something with Terminator.

Given how bad Dark Fate was, though, I don't have a ton of hype for a Cameron-run Terminator movie unless it's future war stuff.



Yeah, originally Skynet was just an AI that controlled the military stockpiles and whatever rudimentary automated drones existed in 1997. It didn't start building HKs until years later when it became clear that humans were still around and re-forming, and then Terminator models came along even later. Things like rubber-skinned T-600s were probably early 2020's and the plasma rifles were probably mid-2020's. The imitation human T-800s were "new" in 2029, the same year the war ended.

The future war flash-forwards in T2 are of 2029, the very end of the war where T-800s and HKs were in full use. That isn't representative of the entire future war. The flash-forwards in T1 are from earlier in time, maybe 2025 or something. No battlefield terminators, the plasma guns on the HKs are much slower, and the battlefields seem pretty quiet in comparison. And then earlier than that, the "war" probably just consisted of humans trying to shut down Skynet's factories by taking out whatever drones and gun emplacements they had defending them (thus necessitating the construction of more and better robots).

But yeah, the Terminator future war was like 20 years of hijacked existing technology, then 10 years of Skynet actually building its own robots once it realized it was legitimately threatened and needed to find a way to eradicate human settlements and so on.
Some of the books have altered timelines. I don’t think any of it is cannon though, other than the prequel book to Salvation.

Sarah Connor Chronicles looked like it was about to dive into sone of the merging alternate timelines. Not sure if that show was considered cannon. Too bad. It was pretty good.
 
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Sarah Connor Chronicles leaned hard into multiverse. Like there was one episode where a guy traveled back in time and remembered a certain sequence of events, then his girlfriend traveled back later and the sequence of events was completely different due to him traveling back first.

Then I think they later revealed that Skynet was basically playing a numbers game and trying to increase the number of timelines where it succeeds
 
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lets just be honest here. it failed because it was an Arnold movie and Arnold is an old as fuck, beaten man. the movie was also not about him as a central figure, he was more of a sidekick. you can have a great script, but you fuck those things up, the movie is going to disappoint.

Saying it failed because Arnold is one of the most insane Chuk takes of all time.