Not making the case for intelligent design but thanks for the video.
What created matter? What started everything? For some people that's "Nothing." For some people, that's "God."
Intelligent design pro: look at all the order in this chaos! And these specialized things. It must have a creator.
Intelligent design con: order is found in any chaotic system and the things we observe develop.
I am not making either of these arguments. I'm talking about the existence of anything.
Either
1. Matter has always existed, which is an absurdity
2. Matter was created by something, which in turn must have been created by something, ad infinitum, which is an absurdity
3. Matter was created by something that was the cause of itself, or matter is the cause of itself, also an absurdity.
I came into the thread cause someone had a hardon for the idea that discovering something extraterrestrial would finally disprove those durn religious people who STILL believe in God! I'm not religious. It would not be logical to assume any extraterrestrial discovery would disprove God. Viewed in many lights, it might reinforce a belief in God.
From wikipedia: "the fact that there is no conclusive scientific proof of the existence, or non-existence, of God..." There are certainly logical proofs for God, but there are no scientific proofs for God. Those are different things. But in turn, there is no scientific proof for the non-existence of God either.
Here's a neat proof from our man Godel for God.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6...ological_proof