The Astronomy Thread

LachiusTZ · Aug 31, 2021

Right.

Get your brain out of the garbage, and maybe you will understand word play a little better.

You don't need ftl.

It was a sideways comment.

Edaw · Aug 31, 2021

Mudcrush Durtfeet said:
Rare Earth elements aren't actually particularly rare and can be found in the US, it's just that they're expensive to actually seperate (and would be more so on the moon).

He3 for fusion reactors is not needed until we (some day) actually invent fusion reactors. That's been something like 30 years in the future for the last sixty years, so don't hold your breath.

How much water and how easy it is to mine on the moon, I don't know that one.

All true, but it's interesting to see how much has been done in even 6 years and what will another 20 bring if we don't blow ourselves up? I'm skeptical of spaceports, but a lunar colony and even a mars colony are not out of the question. A lot depends on robotics and AI at this point, which is booming. I'm ok pushing the capitalist message if it gets us further out in space.

Oldbased · Aug 31, 2021

Sad to do this but Mudcrush you are going on ignore. All you do is neg shit without any feedback or reason.
I don't really care either way but since you offer nothing in exchange for your retardation, I thought I would tell you why before I never see your shit again.

Kharzette · Aug 31, 2021

Also don't forget that path lengths contract at high tau, so you can make a 1000 light year journey in less than 1000 years shiptime. It also makes big distances not take much more time than fairly close distances as long as you can continue accelerating to the halfway point.

Alot of very big technical hurdles to get over to do that though. Like hitting a rock at that speed is like tsar bomba.

Mudcrush Durtfeet · Aug 31, 2021

Oldbased said:
Sad to do this but Mudcrush you are going on ignore. All you do is neg shit without any feedback or reason.
I don't really care either way but since you offer nothing in exchange for your retardation, I thought I would tell you why before I never see your shit again.

Another one bites the dust.

Mudcrush Durtfeet · Aug 31, 2021

Kharzette said:
Also don't forget that path lengths contract at high tau, so you can make a 1000 light year journey in less than 1000 years shiptime. It also makes big distances not take much more time than fairly close distances as long as you can continue accelerating to the halfway point.

Alot of very big technical hurdles to get over to do that though. Like hitting a rock at that speed is like tsar bomba.

The amount of energy needed to get to such a velocity is higher than you think.

Oldbased · Aug 31, 2021

Kharzette said:
Also don't forget that path lengths contract at high tau, so you can make a 1000 light year journey in less than 1000 years shiptime. It also makes big distances not take much more time than fairly close distances as long as you can continue accelerating to the halfway point.

Alot of very big technical hurdles to get over to do that though. Like hitting a rock at that speed is like tsar bomba.

That movie Passengers ( newer one ) had the most convincing shield system I've seen yet. It even fails on larger things obviously but for space dust and smaller rocks, I think it could be done

Big Phoenix · Aug 31, 2021

Oldbased said:
That movie Passengers ( newer one )

Man that movie rustled my jimmies. It had the chance to be good with a nice little twist at the end but nope, dumbass happy ending.

Edaw · Aug 31, 2021

Researchers Successfully Biomine Vanadium Aboard the Space Station

For centuries, humans have mined materials to build the tools we use every day, from batteries and cell phones to airplanes and refrigerators.

www.nasa.gov

This synchronicity bullshit is getting out of hand.

Oldbased · Aug 31, 2021

Big Phoenix said:
Man that movie rustled my jimmies. It had the chance to be good with a nice little twist at the end but nope, dumbass happy ending.

I still bought it on sale for $5 for 4k version.
Probably have had it playing 20 times over the year as background noise. It's got like 3 people for 99% of the movie and neat effects and I like 2 of the 3 actors and the other I've seen her butthole. What's not to love.

Kharzette · Aug 31, 2021

I kinda like the rev space idea of stacking ice a few miles thick on the front shaped like a needle. Maybe if you found a big ass lead rich asteroid you could dope the ice with lead. Maybe some kind of way to crystalize it with lead embedded the way they do for silicon ingots with germanium.

I hope someone gets to try it all out someday. I'm curious what it would be like moving at that speed. Would the single hydrogen atoms per cubic meter be enough to blast the ice away in (relative) minutes? Would the background radiation just go through and fry everything?

BrutulTM · Aug 31, 2021

Mining water on the moon would theoretically be cheaper to supply space ships or ? It's not like we have a shortage of it on earth and moving it from one place to another on earth is a hell of a lot easier than getting it down from the moon. Ditto for rare earth minerals. They come from China because the mining is yucky and people don't like it near them but it's not like China is the only place to get it and anywhere on Earth with the possible exception of the Marianas Trench is orders of magnitude cheaper than mining the moon.

Cybsled · Aug 31, 2021

The biggest problem with rare earth metals is you have to process a lot of material just to get a tiny bit of the REM and it is very polluting/toxic. If you could process them on the moon, people wont give a shit about pollution (initially anyways).

Bringing water into space from Earth is inefficient. If you can get it on site on the moon, then it not only makes habitation possible but also drastically reduces the costs of further deep space launches in theory.

Oldbased · Aug 31, 2021

Cybsled said:
The biggest problem with rare earth metals is you have to process a lot of material just to get a tiny bit of the REM and it is very polluting/toxic. If you could process them on the moon, people wont give a shit about pollution (initially anyways).

Bringing water into space from Earth is inefficient. If you can get it on site on the moon, then it not only makes habitation possible but also drastically reduces the costs of further deep space launches in theory.

Plus, as diverse as our minerals are, I still feel there is all sorts of shit we don't exists. When Earth was forming up, many elements may have been so heavy or light to have been deep in the core for example. Much of the shit we have now like gold mostly came from after the fact or by plate movement forcing it up and then back down mountains due to weight and water. Some unobtanium would be a good reason to really kickstart space mining and then I could get on my rusty space freighter and never have to give a shit about this planet again. Just smoking cigars, listening to shitty music and eating crappy food hoping some TransXenoAlien boards me.

Mudcrush Durtfeet · Sep 1, 2021

Cybsled said:
The biggest problem with rare earth metals is you have to process a lot of material just to get a tiny bit of the REM and it is very polluting/toxic. If you could process them on the moon, people wont give a shit about pollution (initially anyways).

Bringing water into space from Earth is inefficient. If you can get it on site on the moon, then it not only makes habitation possible but also drastically reduces the costs of further deep space launches in theory.

Bringing it from Earth, or mining it in space, it depends on cheap access to space to really make it efficient. Fortunately SpaceX is making serious progress at this.

Ukerric · Sep 1, 2021

Mudcrush Durtfeet said:
Bringing it from Earth, or mining it in space, it depends on cheap access to space to really make it efficient.

I want my space elevator.

Mudcrush Durtfeet · Sep 1, 2021

Ukerric said:
I want my space elevator.

Oldbased · Sep 1, 2021

You always see black and white docking but never cool color when they dock.
Dragon firing up thrusters. Also what Mudlovers Assfeet asshole looks like after his boyfriend gets done with the nightly therapy session.

Tholan · Sep 1, 2021

Mudcrush Durtfeet said:
Rare Earth elements aren't actually particularly rare and can be found in the US, it's just that they're expensive to actually seperate (and would be more so on the moon).

He3 for fusion reactors is not needed until we (some day) actually invent fusion reactors. That's been something like 30 years in the future for the last sixty years, so don't hold your breath.

How much water and how easy it is to mine on the moon, I don't know that one.

I'm not really up to date with fusion and fission, but isn't fusion not that effective ? I remember reading somewhere that the inner core of the sun, where the pressure and temperature is high enough for the fusion to take place, only produce something like 300 w per cubic meter.
Or we are using something else ?

sindaael · Sep 1, 2021

Developed warp drives with the help of aerodynamics. This should teach you how to build this spaceship. They should be able to get to the stars pretty quickly.

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