The Big Bad Console Thread - Sway your Station with an Xboner !

hmm they don't understand the concept of "Exclusive" anymore =/

Doesn't matter because neither do their supporters.

They really have some of the worst PR ive seen. If only i could go back in time... i still have nightmares of the price i paid for a newly released 360 + extra controller + a game or 2.

Rombo_sl said:

They really have some of the worst PR ive seen. If only i could go back in time... i still have nightmares of the price i paid for a newly released 360 + extra controller + a game or 2.

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Uh.. you think that's bad? I bought a launch PS3 for $600 + 2 games + controller. That was like $800.

On the flipside, the PS3 has been one of my best investments in terms of consoles in a very long time. I have over 40 games for it, plus the free PS+ games and games I no longer own.

I cant say the same for my 360. After 2 red rings of death, only a handfull of games bought and a rebuilt pc... my 360 was just a fancy box i could put my feet on while watching tv.

Vaclav_sl said:

What is nok?

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Nok/nkr = Norwegian kroner. $1 USD = 6 norwegian kroner.

PS4 games are crazy expensive here it seems (especially on PSN).

As to Microsoft marketing, they must have done something right. Because I remember when the 360 / PS3 thing came out, and people still ended up defending the 360 even though

- Released 1 year ahead of the PS3. Done by microsoft to get a head start, but at the cost of the consumers with an insane error %. I think the early reports listed as much as a fault rate of 60% of the first batches of 360s.
---- Microsoft violated several countries consumer laws which had reclamation rights tied to electronic purchases. Microsoft demanded the 360s shipped to them, though by law (at least in Norway) you should be able to get a new console directly from the retailer. However, Microsoft had given retailers a warning that if they allowed turn ins, the retailer would no longer be allowed to sell 360s. This was done to control the numbers of how many systems were returned, as no retailer would have numbers of returned consoles, only consoles sold.

- They had a HDD free version, which made it so developers could not make games to cached from HDDs. Rockstar mentioned this directly impacted LOD and number of cars/npcs on screen when they developed GTA 4 (so it undoubtedly impacted more games as well). This even though all PS3 had HDDs, but the impact of it was tied to all systems. This was around the first time I also heard of the conspiracies regarding MS paying to make things "equal" between versions, because the statement made it very clear that the PS3 could do something the 360 could not.

- 360 had very overpriced hard drives. You could buy a standard 2.5hdd for the PS3 and replace it. The HDD upgrades for Microsoft were 2-3x as expensive as the non brand counterparts. Could easily get a 250+gig hd for the PS3 for the same cost the 360 had from going from no HDD to their early 20 or 60 gig ones.

- PS3s all came with Wifi. That was a $50ish dollar addon to the 360.

- PS3 controllers were chargeable. 360 ones required change of batteries (adds up unless you purchase rechargeable batteries, which is yet another hidden cost)

Still, 360 was constantly hailed as being much cheaper than the PS3, and the PS3 was listed as massively overpriced. Even though it came with a blu-ray player as well.

Oh, and the PS3 was region free due to the blu-ray drive. 360 was not. Being able to import games saved me $20 ish per game including shipping. Not a bullet point that mattered much outside of Europe, but importing games from the US/Canada is much cheaper than buying them locally here.

Point being though, with all the hidden costs of the 360, and the constant failures and FU to consumers, Microsoft must have done some of their marketing right. Because the statements from the public never seemed to have anything to do with the actual realities or costs associated with the console. Even at max price the PS3 was hardly ever much more expensive than the 360 if you were to buy all the addons required to give the 360 the same specs as a default PS3. Only thing I have ever agreed on being better from the 360 compared to the PS3 was the controllers (minus the batteries).

EDIT: Should note that my experiences of the PS3 vs 360 also doesn't take LIVE / PSN into account. Because 95% of the stuff available on Xbox LIVE is not available outside of the US. PSN was free at least. I am aware that Xbox LIVE gold in the US was much better than PSN early on. Not sure what the status is between the two today, because they are still gimped services here compared to the US. I do know the majority of the marketed TV features of the Xbox One will not work here.

Soygen_sl said:

Microsoft's marketing didn't have much to do with the PS3's troubles. Sony(much like MS this generation) were a bunch of retards during the PS3 pre-launch and throughout much of its life. They handed Microsoft a win basically.

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True, it might be just bad marketing from Sony. I just never understood people defending the 360 with reasons that made no sense when looking at the actual hardware realities and base costs of the consoles. Microsoft certainly didn't release the "better" product in terms of hardware.

Everyone seems to keep missing the best feature of a Xbox 360. The stupid easy ability to mod it to play burned games. Download games, burn to DVD, and profit. Then you can really feel good about sticking it to Microsoft!

Soygen_sl said:

Microsoft's marketing didn't have much to do with the PS3's troubles. Sony(much like MS this generation) were a bunch of retards during the PS3 pre-launch and throughout much of its life. They handed Microsoft a win basically.

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And then Sony decided to drop the price from $600 to $300 and they started to win.

too lazy to find the PS+ thread, Injustice for PS3 and PS4 is $8.40 on PSN here is PS4 link
https://store.sonyentertainmentnetwo...JUSTICEULTIMAT

seems worth it at that price, 22 gig download

spronk_sl said:

too lazy to find the PS+ thread, Injustice for PS3 and PS4 is $8.40 on PSN here is PS4 link
https://store.sonyentertainmentnetwo...JUSTICEULTIMAT

seems worth it at that price, 22 gig download

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Thanks. Have always wanted to get this and at that price I can't pass it up. Then of course this will be the free game on Ps+ next month knowing my luck.

Basically every major superhero game looks to be on a deep sale - all the Arkham titles, LEGO Marvel (which was quite enjoyable if a bit silly), the PS3 Infamous'. (Infamice?)

they are also on sale for PC on greenmangaming, like $10 for first two GOTY batmans and $7.40 for injustice some of the lego ones too
Batman Game of the Year Pack | PC game | Download discounts at Green Man Gaming

its 75th anniversary of batman, fucker is old

PS3 was actually a good deal at launch if you can believe it. Blue Ray had just come out, and the cheapest player was 1k.

But yeah 600 was nuts

sony listed the games that will be playable at Gamescom (European e3) the surprises are Journey, Until Dawn, and Unfinished Swan on PS4

PlayStation 4:
Battlefield: Hardline
Bloodborne
CounterSpy
Driveclub
Surgeon Simulator
Middle Earth: Shadow of Mordor
Alien: Isolation
Diablo III: Reaper of Souls Ultimate Evil Edition
Lego Batman 3: Beyond Gotham
Far Cry 4
Guns Up!
WWE 2K15
NBA 2K15
Assault Android Cactus
Pix the Cat
Nom Nom Galaxy
Nuclear Throne
Galak-Z
Project Cars
Disney Infinity 2
Hohokum
Helldivers
Destiny
Until Dawn
The Unfinished Swan
The Order: 1886
The Last of Us Remastered
Super Exploding Zoo
SingStar
Minecraft PlayStation 4 Edition
LittleBigPlanet 3
Killzone: Shadow Fall Intercept
Journey
inFamous First Light
Hustle Kings

PlayStation Vita:
Super Exploding Zoo
Soul Sacrifice Delta
Futuridium
Hatsune Miku-Projekt DIVA-F 2
Flame Over
Frozen Synapse Tactics
Final Horizon
Dragon Fin Soup
Lego Ninjago Nindroids
The Sly Trilogy
The Ratchet & Clank Trilogy
PlayStation Vita Pets
Murasaki Baby
Minecraft PS Vita Edition
Invizimals: The Alliance
Hotline Miami 2: Wrong Number
Hohokum
Freedom Wars
Entwined
Big Fest


never played Journey on PS3 so looking forward to it, supposed to be very beautiful game