The Bikeriders

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Saw it and was not overly thrilled. More than anything, it's a portrait of an era and of a sub-culture. There are some interesting elements to it, like how motorcycle club culture drifts from a certain idea of a marginalised life style to criminal activity, but that's not the core of the film. I wish it would have been.
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I remember watching a documentary a long time ago that I guess the original biker gangs were all world war II for Korean war veterans, a lot of them being fighter pilots or something, that had trouble adjusting to life after the wars, and it was about getting together with your other military buddies.

Is that what this is kind of about?
 
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Dr.Retarded said:
I remember watching a documentary a long time ago that I guess the original biker gangs were all world war II for Korean war veterans, a lot of them being fighter pilots or something, that had trouble adjusting to life after the wars, and it was about getting together with your other military buddies.

Is that what this is kind of about?
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Spoilers I guess, but it's not exactly what is shown. The initial members of the club are a diverse group of... I guess one could say misfits. Some have regular jobs and families, but they just happen to have this calling for a sort of alternate way of life, a certain sense of freedom. They are part of a sub-culture that is frowned upon (the film does not exactly explain why though), so the Club is both a socialisation tool and an assistance tool, to help in case of accidents, technical problems in the boonies or arrests. Then there is an influx of Vietnam var veterans and more marginalised people, who come with drugs, violence and crime. One of the character talks about a rift between the beer drinkers and the pot smokers. A new generation of bikers that will ultimately turn the club into a gang. As I said though, it's not The Wire: Biker edition: these issues are mentioned and are important for the story, but it's not a deep dive into the sociology of it all.

EDIT: It should be mentioned that the original book the movie is based on is focused on a very specific motorcycle club, The Chicago Vandals. What I mean by that, is that we don't know watching the film how this specific club is different or similar to other clubs. For all we know, it's a strange outlier (I mean the founder, played by Tom Hardy, was a regular dude with a regular life that caught the motorcycle bug watching Marlon Brando in The Wild One on TV!)
 
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Szlia said:
Spoilers I guess, but it's not exactly what is shown. The initial members of the club are a diverse group of... I guess one could say misfits. Some have regular jobs and families, but they just happen to have this calling for a sort of alternate way of life, a certain sense of freedom. They are part of a sub-culture that is frowned upon (the film does not exactly explain why though), so the Club is both a socialisation tool and an assistance tool, to help in case of accidents, technical problems in the boonies or arrests. Then there is an influx of Vietnam var veterans and more marginalised people, who come with drugs, violence and crime. One of the character talks about a rift between the beer drinkers and the pot smokers. A new generation of bikers that will ultimately turn the club into a gang. As I said though, it's not The Wire: Biker edition: these issues are mentioned and are important for the story, but it's not a deep dive into the sociology of it all.
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Ok, kind of sounds like what I guess it might be based upon the trailer. Probably check it out at some point, doesn't look like a bad movie whatsoever, I really just wondered if it was going to be a bunch of military vets starting up a biker club.

Thanks.
 
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